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AIBU?

to think these parents should have checked first if they wanted to go out and leave their child with me?

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Tinklewinkle · 24/05/2015 19:23

Sorry, very long winded title, but I'm bloody pissed off and don't think I've done anything wrong.

DD2's best friend lives a few doors down from us. We have a bit of an open door policy whereby the girls (both 9, nearly 10) knock for each other, if it's nice they tend to play together out the front, or they'll come in (here or at DD's friend's house) and play for a while, then when we get fed up/dishing up dinner/have to go out/whatever we'll send them home.

DH and DD1 are away this weekend and DD2 and I had made plans for a couple of treats. DD's friend came and knocked for her just after lunch and DD asked if they could play for a while. Reminded DD we were going out so they only had an hour or so. All fine.

I sent DD's friend home when we were ready to go, DD and I went out. That was that, all very normal and nothing that hasn't happened pretty much every day for several years.

Anyway, DD and I return and we've been home a matter of minutes before there's a knock on the door. I assume it's DD's friend and go to explain that we were going to sort out dinner and have a movie night, so DD would see her tomorrow. But it's the friends mum.

It turns out that while DD's friend was here, they'd gone out. They'd returned to find their DD sitting on their doorstep and the parents are very upset with me.

At no point had either parent mentioned they were going out, they didn't pop down, phone, text, anything. The friend didn't say a word and I had absolutely no idea they weren't in

Now, there have been times when DD has been there and we've needed to go out. One of us will go down, if it's OK we'll leave DD there if it's not, DD will come with us. I'd never just go out without speaking to them first.

AIBU to think, if you want someone else to be responsible for your child, you should bloody well let them know first. I actually have no problem with their DD staying here when they go out if it's convenient, but they can't just expect me to be responsible for supervising their daughter while they're out if I don't know I'm supposed to be doing so

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BalloonSlayer · 25/05/2015 12:49

Cheeky buggers!

I'd have said to the DD "Sorry darling, didn't your Mummy tell you? She doesn't want you to play here any more. Off you go."

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WalterMittyish · 25/05/2015 13:03

I'd be warning the cheeky bitch that any hint of a stunt like that again and you'd be having a word with social services!

Do some people just not give a shit about their kids or something? Shock

What if their DD had suddenly wanted her parents for some reason be had to be told 'errr, it appears they've gone somewhere and we don't know where.' How frightening for her :(

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PuggyMum · 25/05/2015 13:16

Ooh I was hoping for an update on this thread but didn't think it would be this quick.

Op you have really handled this with a lot more dignity than I would have.

Good luck speaking to this woman. I'd send her the link to the thread!

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DamsonInDistress · 25/05/2015 13:17

I agree with some of the others, OP, you missed your chance to nip this in the bud by letting her in this morning. You should have sent her home and told her that her mum said she wasn't allowed to play with your dd anymore and if shed changed her mind she needed to speak to you in person. And sent the same text to the mum as well. She will be bad mouthing you behind your back as it is, do not be a doormat for her as well.

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antimatter · 25/05/2015 13:18

Time to set the rules.

I would no go today.
Think it through.
Make a list of things you are going to talk about.

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Sickofthesnow · 25/05/2015 13:19

OP I have a kid with an almost identical friendship set up, same age, same open door policy etc,they spend most days together.

The mum is a friend of mine now, and if either one of us had pulled a stunt like this there would be a hell of a falling out!

You just don't DO that! You don't ASSUME the other parent has no plans and will just automatically watch your kid while they disappear. You certainly dont take it out on the other parent (who btw you're taking the utter piss out of) and yell at them for the fact your kid has been left unattended.

I can't believe the brass neck of people like this. I would certainly be having it out with her. She clearly thinks by the "that's fine" that she can walk all over you, treat you like a mug, yell at you, and you'll roll over and let her. Shocking behaviour. Feel sorry for her kid tbh

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carrielou2007 · 25/05/2015 13:25

My mouth is hanging open in shock like this Shock she left her daughter and screamed at you and after cooling down is ignoring what happened?? I'm just so ShockShockShock

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Aeroflotgirl · 25/05/2015 13:29

I am glad your not letting it go, you cannot let her walk all over you, and treat you like shit.

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Tinklewinkle · 25/05/2015 13:54

Thanks.

No, I definitely won't let it go. I don't want an argument via text, and she's clearly not going to come up here and speak to me so there's not much else I can do other than go down there and have it out with her once DH is back.

I've seen her behave this way with other people before. They fall out, and then once she's calmed down she's embarrassed and then tries to carry on like it's never happened. I think she's more sheepish than brass neck but I'm not going to leave it

I let the friend in this morning more for my own DD's benefit than anything else. Having had a horrible night with her anxiety and worrying about not being allowed to play with her friend anymore, she was extremely relieved to see her. Plus, the only people being punished here would be the girls themselves and they haven't done anything wrong. I don't know, I just didn't think it would be fair of me

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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 25/05/2015 14:34

I think you are being very level headed about this OP and good on you for keeping it in the adult realm and not letting it affect the girls. As you say, they are innocent in all of this.

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DixieNormas · 25/05/2015 14:43

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Yellowbird01 · 25/05/2015 14:46

The other mum is soooo cheeky. The brass neck of some! Shock

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Stillwishihadabs · 25/05/2015 15:08

This has happened to us before. Next door neighbour come over to play with Dd regularly and more than once I have sent her home only to be told her parents have gone out. She is 12 though so I have let her stay in our house (without us sometimes) till they get back.

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ollieplimsoles · 25/05/2015 15:27

Can't believe this thread- what a fucking brass neck! then having a go at you on your own doorstep!

I can't believe her response as well, surely her DD would have said to her 'I'm just going over to littleTinkle's- or does she just walk out of the door without her parents knowing??

So they know she was going over to play with your DD (despite the mother saying it wasn't allowed), then pretends like nothing has happened in the text back to you.

They are crazy, and the mother is a bitch!

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cococandyfloss · 25/05/2015 15:51

I think it is really nice that you don't want the girls involved but you do need to do as planned and have a word as otherwise by just letting her shout at you, call you irresponsible never mind the whole leaving you to care for her child without telling you ,you are enabling her behaviour.

I would just set ground rules and establish that her dd is welcome anytime , however they must tell you if they are going out as you are not a mind reader and that you do not appreciate being called irresponsible or shouted at when you hadn't done anything to warrant that.

If she gets the hump and is arsey with you and has a go again make sure that next time her dd comes round that you explain to both girls exactly what has happened.

Good luck with your chat!

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Devora · 25/05/2015 16:34

OP, I think you are handling this beautifully.

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whatlifestylechoice · 25/05/2015 16:47

Have you talked to her yet, OP?

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Hoppinggreen · 25/05/2015 16:51

We have a very similar set up, with the same ages.
IF we need to pop out or the other parents do we go round and check it's ok.
Wouldn't ever consider going out and just basically leaving my child alone.
If the message comes from the child I text the mum to say it's ok or stick my head Out of the door ( next door but 2) and wave and give the thumbs up. Unless a parent has told me in person ( or text) they are responsible for my 10 year old then there is no way I would leave her.

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fourchetteoff · 25/05/2015 16:55

Hi Op, I think you have been brilliant about this, especially not letting this silly mum's reaction mean that you are going to take it out on the kid's friendship.

Recently we had a situation like this, where a little sister tagged along with a next-door-buddy of my son's. They were playing in our garden, and then I heard a call from the grandparent who was looking after them to come home. Half an hour later, I discover that the little girl was still in my house playing in my DDs room! I hadn't even realised she'd come in. The grandparents had been 'looking everywhere for her' but I hadn't heard the doorbell as I had the radio blaring. The parents were really upset about it all as they felt I'd been 'in charge'. But I hadn't invited the kid in in the first place!! Confused
Basically I talked to them about EXACTLY what would happen during 'drop in drop out' playdates. i.e., we would come over with the child or at least call. No texts to avoid confusion. Then the other person would call to send back. If both children came, then both need to leave at same time etc. This really helped as clearly these playtimes were getting confusing.

Personally though, I would go over to the mum when the playdate is over. Say that clearly things went wrong yesterday (without mentioning blame, even though you were clearly 99.9% in the right) and that you need to have 'guidelines' in place for these informal playdates, otherwise a situation will arise again.

It's good you aren't taking it out on the kids though. The mum sounds a nightmare, but kids friends are worth the aggro sometimes. Smile

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ssd · 25/05/2015 16:55

OP, go down there and rip her a new one....verbally of course Grin

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HighwayDragon · 25/05/2015 17:07

blatant place marking!

Do update when you've spoken to the mum

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Favouritethings · 25/05/2015 17:09

The mother sounds deluded!

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Tinklewinkle · 25/05/2015 18:16

So we've had words.

I didn't actually make it down to her, she came up to get her DD before I'd had a chance to get down there.

Pretty much as soon as I answered the door she apologised. She said they'd really panicked when they came home and found their DD waiting and took it out on the wrong person.

I said I was glad she'd come up as I was extremely pissed off and that we really needed to make these play dates a bit more formal, that I didn't want to punish the girls by refusing to let them play together, but that I wasn't prepared to risk it happening again.

She swears blind they've never done it before. They had to go out in a rush and in the "confusion of getting ready totally forgot to come down" Hmm

She's apologised and she's promised she'll check with me before going out in future. I don't know, I'm not particularly convinced they've never done it before, but I guess I can only wait and see if it happens again.

Thanks all!

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NadiaWadia · 25/05/2015 18:22

A good outcome. You must be pleased that she saw sense and quite rightly apologised. It's good the girls will continue to play together, but I don't blame you if you are a bit wary from now on!

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