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AIBU?

to think these parents should have checked first if they wanted to go out and leave their child with me?

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Tinklewinkle · 24/05/2015 19:23

Sorry, very long winded title, but I'm bloody pissed off and don't think I've done anything wrong.

DD2's best friend lives a few doors down from us. We have a bit of an open door policy whereby the girls (both 9, nearly 10) knock for each other, if it's nice they tend to play together out the front, or they'll come in (here or at DD's friend's house) and play for a while, then when we get fed up/dishing up dinner/have to go out/whatever we'll send them home.

DH and DD1 are away this weekend and DD2 and I had made plans for a couple of treats. DD's friend came and knocked for her just after lunch and DD asked if they could play for a while. Reminded DD we were going out so they only had an hour or so. All fine.

I sent DD's friend home when we were ready to go, DD and I went out. That was that, all very normal and nothing that hasn't happened pretty much every day for several years.

Anyway, DD and I return and we've been home a matter of minutes before there's a knock on the door. I assume it's DD's friend and go to explain that we were going to sort out dinner and have a movie night, so DD would see her tomorrow. But it's the friends mum.

It turns out that while DD's friend was here, they'd gone out. They'd returned to find their DD sitting on their doorstep and the parents are very upset with me.

At no point had either parent mentioned they were going out, they didn't pop down, phone, text, anything. The friend didn't say a word and I had absolutely no idea they weren't in

Now, there have been times when DD has been there and we've needed to go out. One of us will go down, if it's OK we'll leave DD there if it's not, DD will come with us. I'd never just go out without speaking to them first.

AIBU to think, if you want someone else to be responsible for your child, you should bloody well let them know first. I actually have no problem with their DD staying here when they go out if it's convenient, but they can't just expect me to be responsible for supervising their daughter while they're out if I don't know I'm supposed to be doing so

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bigbumtheory · 26/05/2015 10:18

I hope she's read the thread and realised how bloody irresponsible they both were and how rude she was having a go at you OP when they should have been having harsh words with themselves!

Glad you got an apology.

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Tinklewinkle · 26/05/2015 09:28

Ooh, maybe she has read this. That didn't occur to me.

The apology was a bit out of character. It's not that she's not sorry, she just usually tries to sweep it all under the carpet.

Oh well, what's done is done

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DrElizabethPlimpton · 26/05/2015 09:02

I'm putting my money on her having read this thread Grin

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Wellwellwell3holesintheground · 26/05/2015 08:31

When I grow up I want to be like the OP.

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justmyview · 26/05/2015 02:14

OP, that was brilliantly handled ! Well done

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Fatmomma99 · 26/05/2015 01:09

Tinklewinkle, I applaud your assertiveness at not letting this slide + your kindess at not letting it affect your children and I'm SCREAMING with joy at the right result.

This thread should be frame and put on the wall for all of us.

Brilliant!

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dickhead3507 · 25/05/2015 19:39

She needs you
She apologised. Good.
Result - as you said she NEVER apologises just acts like nothing happened with other people!

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BitterChocolate · 25/05/2015 19:36

It does look that way Devora. Tinklewinkle said upthread that she would be able to forgive if the other parent took responsibility and apologised for taking it out on the wrong person, and the other mum has said that very thing almost word for word. At least it shows an ability to learn. Grin

I wonder if there was any stage after they left at which they both realised they had forgotten their child? I guess not as they would have phoned you at the point they knew they were missing her.

I suppose if the prime minister can forget a child in the confusion of leaving, then anyone can do it.

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Devora · 25/05/2015 18:23

Result!

Do you think she's been reading Mumsnet? Grin

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NadiaWadia · 25/05/2015 18:22

A good outcome. You must be pleased that she saw sense and quite rightly apologised. It's good the girls will continue to play together, but I don't blame you if you are a bit wary from now on!

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Tinklewinkle · 25/05/2015 18:16

So we've had words.

I didn't actually make it down to her, she came up to get her DD before I'd had a chance to get down there.

Pretty much as soon as I answered the door she apologised. She said they'd really panicked when they came home and found their DD waiting and took it out on the wrong person.

I said I was glad she'd come up as I was extremely pissed off and that we really needed to make these play dates a bit more formal, that I didn't want to punish the girls by refusing to let them play together, but that I wasn't prepared to risk it happening again.

She swears blind they've never done it before. They had to go out in a rush and in the "confusion of getting ready totally forgot to come down" Hmm

She's apologised and she's promised she'll check with me before going out in future. I don't know, I'm not particularly convinced they've never done it before, but I guess I can only wait and see if it happens again.

Thanks all!

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Favouritethings · 25/05/2015 17:09

The mother sounds deluded!

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HighwayDragon · 25/05/2015 17:07

blatant place marking!

Do update when you've spoken to the mum

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ssd · 25/05/2015 16:55

OP, go down there and rip her a new one....verbally of course Grin

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fourchetteoff · 25/05/2015 16:55

Hi Op, I think you have been brilliant about this, especially not letting this silly mum's reaction mean that you are going to take it out on the kid's friendship.

Recently we had a situation like this, where a little sister tagged along with a next-door-buddy of my son's. They were playing in our garden, and then I heard a call from the grandparent who was looking after them to come home. Half an hour later, I discover that the little girl was still in my house playing in my DDs room! I hadn't even realised she'd come in. The grandparents had been 'looking everywhere for her' but I hadn't heard the doorbell as I had the radio blaring. The parents were really upset about it all as they felt I'd been 'in charge'. But I hadn't invited the kid in in the first place!! Confused
Basically I talked to them about EXACTLY what would happen during 'drop in drop out' playdates. i.e., we would come over with the child or at least call. No texts to avoid confusion. Then the other person would call to send back. If both children came, then both need to leave at same time etc. This really helped as clearly these playtimes were getting confusing.

Personally though, I would go over to the mum when the playdate is over. Say that clearly things went wrong yesterday (without mentioning blame, even though you were clearly 99.9% in the right) and that you need to have 'guidelines' in place for these informal playdates, otherwise a situation will arise again.

It's good you aren't taking it out on the kids though. The mum sounds a nightmare, but kids friends are worth the aggro sometimes. Smile

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Hoppinggreen · 25/05/2015 16:51

We have a very similar set up, with the same ages.
IF we need to pop out or the other parents do we go round and check it's ok.
Wouldn't ever consider going out and just basically leaving my child alone.
If the message comes from the child I text the mum to say it's ok or stick my head Out of the door ( next door but 2) and wave and give the thumbs up. Unless a parent has told me in person ( or text) they are responsible for my 10 year old then there is no way I would leave her.

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whatlifestylechoice · 25/05/2015 16:47

Have you talked to her yet, OP?

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Devora · 25/05/2015 16:34

OP, I think you are handling this beautifully.

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cococandyfloss · 25/05/2015 15:51

I think it is really nice that you don't want the girls involved but you do need to do as planned and have a word as otherwise by just letting her shout at you, call you irresponsible never mind the whole leaving you to care for her child without telling you ,you are enabling her behaviour.

I would just set ground rules and establish that her dd is welcome anytime , however they must tell you if they are going out as you are not a mind reader and that you do not appreciate being called irresponsible or shouted at when you hadn't done anything to warrant that.

If she gets the hump and is arsey with you and has a go again make sure that next time her dd comes round that you explain to both girls exactly what has happened.

Good luck with your chat!

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ollieplimsoles · 25/05/2015 15:27

Can't believe this thread- what a fucking brass neck! then having a go at you on your own doorstep!

I can't believe her response as well, surely her DD would have said to her 'I'm just going over to littleTinkle's- or does she just walk out of the door without her parents knowing??

So they know she was going over to play with your DD (despite the mother saying it wasn't allowed), then pretends like nothing has happened in the text back to you.

They are crazy, and the mother is a bitch!

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Stillwishihadabs · 25/05/2015 15:08

This has happened to us before. Next door neighbour come over to play with Dd regularly and more than once I have sent her home only to be told her parents have gone out. She is 12 though so I have let her stay in our house (without us sometimes) till they get back.

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Yellowbird01 · 25/05/2015 14:46

The other mum is soooo cheeky. The brass neck of some! Shock

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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 25/05/2015 14:34

I think you are being very level headed about this OP and good on you for keeping it in the adult realm and not letting it affect the girls. As you say, they are innocent in all of this.

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