To ask band 5 nurses (at lower end of pay scale) how much you earn?

[Llbarls81]

I've just done a calculation as I'm due to qualify in September and I'm shocked at how little the pay is!! I've just worked out that a band 5 entry level nurse takes home around £1400 a month?? Surely this isn't right?

Spotify there is a massive drop out rate in nursing courses. Drayton is talking about graduates who cross the finish line

Haha scrap my last post, hadn't signed in yet and thought I was replying to OP! Must be the weekend soon surely

Should you really are clutching at straws with your comparisons. It's not helping you.

Not clutching at straws at all

Nursing isn't the only put upon profession. Just others are less vocal about it.

I am a band 7 nurse and I earn around £45,000 a year, this is perfectly adequate but with that comes 13yrs experience and a lot of responsibility. Starting salary could be better but as you progress throughout your career your pay will rise, if unsociable pay is scrapped I will lose a chunk of my wages and will be looking for another job, senior nurses have a massive amount of responsibility and its not worth being a martyr pay wise

loulous how do you manage 45 grand on band 7? Is that lots of overtime too?

I'm mid point band 6 but don't work unsocial hours and I bring in around £1700 (work full time). I work bank most weekends to supplement my wage.

Of course should I mean you never see teachers or firefighters going on strike for fair pay and conditions to name just two professions....us nurses are just so spoilt and unreasonable!

Some really honest opinions here. If you don't agree that the starting salary is ok, well tough.but I have met some real bitches on the wards in my time.far too fond of chatting at the nurses station while their infirm patients weren't able to eat their food and went hungry and thirsty. Or,suffering from dementia, recovering from a heart attack and recently widowed and very frightened, one of their patients was moved 6 times in a fortnight until they had no idea where they were and had "lost" their locker and all their personal effects. The caring profession??
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Pay point

With effect from With effect from
1 April 2013 1 Sept 2013
0 £19,000 £19,191
1 £22,000 £22,221 (a)
2 £23,000 £23,229 (b)
3 £24,000 £24,240
4 £25,000 £25,251
5 £27,000 £27,270
6 £31,032 £31,341
7 £36,519 £36,885

Taken from Surrey Police's web site. Similar pay levels as nurses for a similarly stressful job.

I dont do overtime, just get a lot of unsociable hours pay. I didnt realise this was turning into a daily mail nurse bashing thread. There are shit nurses, just like there are in any profession. You dont like the way they work? Report them dont bitch and do nothing.

I've known bent coppers corrupt lawyers and shit teachers. I don't see what that's got to do with whether pay for certain professions is adequate

I don't think that is a low starting salary with they key word being starting. There should be opportunity for nurses to be recognised in terms of their experience and thus, to progress up the ladder in terms of pay.

To expect to start on much more than £21k as a newly qualified comes across as entitled. You start at the bottom and work your way up. I appreciate that in certain professions e.g. law this is expected and much easier than in a profession like nursing.

loulou we're the uncaring scum of the universe or didn't you get that memo

These threads always turn into nurse bashing, usually by people who sit in offices all day scratching their arses and playing Minesweeper.

Sharon do you think relatively low pay will increase or decrease police corruption?

Pays got nothing to do with whether some professionals are shit or not. And you can't very well pay one police officer a shit wage as they look dodgy and another a handsome wage as they come across squeaky clean.

This thread makes me angry. You look at your child struggling to breathe and tell me she should be grateful for £11 an hour, overtime, lack of breaks, her bad feet and back, do it while she's helping him go back to pink from blue.

I'm a band 7 (Not a nurse) and I can tell you now nurses deserve a damn sight more than what they get.

People saying it's a decent starting salary seem to have no idea the sheer responsibility that comes with it, and the hardwork prior to and during nursing.

I wouldn't do their job for that pay. Not a chance. Whilst 21k might seem decent when looking at it in numbers, when you think of what they have to do it really isn't. One mistake and their career is over (they cannot register as a nurse), or even worse someones life. The role is ever expanding and they've now taken on more and more but wages don't reflect that. They do things that were once the responsibility of band 7+, more technical, more skilled, but nothing to show for it.

Some people really do have a very low opinions of nurses and seem to think they're glorified carers. They aren't.

I know plenty of nurses who have been doing it for years, still on band 5. Not much reward for years of service.

A woman I work very closely with is still band 5 and has been in the NHS for 40 years. She is an incredibly skilled individual, but doesn't want to move up bands because the higher you go the less actual hands on nursing you do.

Defeats the whole point doesnt it. If nurses want to make more money the less patient contact they get - the reason most folk go into it in the first place, and the more shoved in an office doing budgets and reviewing pathways and attending meetings.