What percentage of kids get level 6 in KS2 SATS?

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How common is it to score level 6 in SATs? Do many kids manage this or just a few?

Times like these I am quite grateful that the whole SAT scoring is being binned ...

Level 4 is average
Level 5 is above average
Level 6 is expected at the end of Year 7.

My DD got 3 level 5s in her Yr 6 Sats. She's now in Year 12 and last year got 9 A*/As, a B and a C.

My friend's son got 3 level 6s in his Yr 6 Sats. He's the same school age as my DD and last summer he got 10A*/As and a B.

Not a lot in it.

But if this helps, another boy in DD's year group was feted as the cleverest thing since clever people were invented, he went on all the gifted and talented programmes, he was always in the bloody newsletter from Yr7 to bleeding Year 11 when he didn't do brilliantly in his GCSE and is now flunking his A levels.

So I suppose what I'm saying is that the mums can be as pleased as punch with a level 6 in Year 6, but that doesn't mean so say that the others won't catch up later on.

Level 6 is expected at the end of Year 7.
No, it isn't. It's expected at the end of Year 9.

thats really?

As others have said, way more common in maths than English.

In DS1's school, around 25% of the year group generally achieve L6 for maths. It's only around 1-2% for reading/writing.

It will obviously vary school to school though. I have friends who teach in other primary schools who will have no children sitting L6 papers at all, others might have just one or two children.

Actually, not even then. Average (so expected) at the end of Y9 is a 5. This should then translate to a C at GCSE (2 grade equivalent improvement) which is bloody amazing as C has never been the average grade...it's always been lower than that.
Basically, levels, grades and 'expected improvement' are all bollocks as kids learn at different speeds and make progress at different ages and some even go backwards for a hit every now and then.

this is useful

Basically expected at end of year 9 is level 5/6. Level 7 is GCSEs grade C equivalent.

In my DS's school (high FSM uptake and in a deprived area) there are 3 children who will be put forward for the level 6 paper in maths and only 2 for English.

DS and 2 other kids got level 6A maths in his school year last year and I think 2 more got 6B.

Apparently they get between 2 and 6 kids through L6 each year (double intake so quite a big state primary).

DS is exceptionally good at maths/science/computing and was given special maths booster classes in advance of the SAT's.

That said, he manages to balance that by being conversely below average at everything else especially English and arts subjects, so I wouldn't see it as a de facto "genius" identifier...

The expected level at the end of KS3 is Level 5/6, which is what I frequently make my pupils aware of. It doesn't matter, if they don't achieve the Level 6 at the end of KS2. It doesn't even matter, if they don't reach the Level 5. I put a few forward for the L6 tests this year, but all of them are approaching the papers with the attitude that it's just a little extra, to see how far we can go.
My class appear quite relaxed about the whole thing, though. I'm still trying to figure out whether that's a good thing or not.

2014
L6 reading 0%
L6 writing 2%
L6 maths 9%
L6 spag 4%

L5 reading 49%
L5 writing 33%
L5 maths 42%
L5 spag 52%

• Thatssofunny Mon 11-May-15 21:07:59

But surely if these dc are going to apply for selective schools, it matters very much whether they are entered for level 6 and cover the work?

Level 6 can be a sign of brightness or simply hothousing and teaching to the test in my observations.
Hothousing and pressure at such a young age I feel can suck the joy out of say a child who perhaps has a flair for, for example, maths but does not want to practise SATs crap constantly.

Level 6 is expected at the end of Year 7.

Year 7s should no longer be using NC levels. So, although in the past level 6 was the expected by end of y9 - it is now irrelevant and doesn't apply to the new curriculum.

After this summer, NC levels won't be used at all anyway.

Unless of course, Thatssofunny, you have had meetings with the dc and the parents to discuss what their aims are? Before you say its not important?

our y 7 still are!

re: The 2014 posted by secretambridgelover

L6 Reading 0%. Rounding down to the nearest %, so we have less than 0.5% (1 in 200) getting that.

IIRC, the writing is teacher assessed, not examined.

I think the difference in percentages between reading and maths is because the reading is proper L6 and the maths is more like L5 with knobs on.

The old levels no longer match the new curriculum.

Schools are supposed to have started using their own new assessments, based around the new curriculum requirements. If they are still using NC levels, outside of y2 and y6, then the school are making rough judgements regarding the new curriculum and the old assessment grids.

in our world levels can be dropped this year coming 2015-6

Mmmm....assessing without levels.
We will see ho hum!!

We are just using them in Y2. We have adopted STAT in Y1 and will do Y2 next year. Seems to be fine in y1 so far.

Will be interesting to see exactly how SATs will be examined and assessed from next year.

18% in my kids school but they are stupidly pushy

I can tell you that on average 2 children per year take it at our school (small cohort approx 15) and mostly achieve it.

My DS and one other got level 6 for writing last year, out of a class of 26.
I think 3 got it for maths.