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To ask if you've ever met a man who showed genuine hatred towards women?

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EmeraldThief · 05/05/2015 14:24

I only ask because in my local convenience store just now I came face to face with a former work colleague who IMO was just like that. I was the only woman at this place, surrounded by men and never had a single problem until I had to work alongside him. From the off was very arrogant, offhand and attempted to "put me in my place." I took it until one day I snapped, told him he was out of order and I wasn't prepared to be spoken to like that.

The response to that was off the scale, you know how when you usually stand up to bullies they back down, or are supposed to anyway? Well he exploded, red faced, bulging eyes, actually rocking back and forth ranting "who then fuck do YOU think you are?", "what the fuck is wrong with YOU?." amongst other things. I was for once rendered speechless, and was actually scared for my safety. I refused to work with him after that and left shortly aftewards.

It had to be because I was woman. He was was like that with anyone else and was indeed popular with everyone else there. It was bizarre and then first and only time I've ever encountered it. I know he had teenage daughters and I often wonder how he'd feel if a bloke spoke to them like that?

I should hate him for that but I see him for the pathetic creature he is. Short, bald, middle aged and borderline obese. With a really noticeable lisp. i actually pity him.

Sorry for rambling. Has anyone else evee encountered this?

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Charlotte3333 · 05/05/2015 17:13

On the flip side, I worked with a woman who thoroughly hated every other woman in the world. So it's not exclusive to men. She was disgusting and would regularly call other women in the office slags and whores. She deliberately undermined any female more senior than her, and created so many problems in the office it ended up being a vile place to work. So maybe it's not just some men treating women like shit, it's some women too.

HetzelNatur · 05/05/2015 17:21

I knew a bloke growing up whose mother was the most talkative person you ever met, affording her husband and children little dignity or privacy and consequently the H and her son were very quiet. I think her dd got off better.
Her son wanted to go out with me but I sensed he wasn't quite right and so refused, but we stayed friends, and he was bullied by all the other boys in the street. Sadly I could see why. He was a loner and anyway, we wrote some letters when we were in our 20s. He had achieved a lot financially and in his work, he told me about various girlfriends but he always had to organise everything and was very controlling. One girl dumped him and his next letter to me was filled with 'yeah, she'll be a lonely, bitter old hag and it will serve her right' Shock

I eased off the letters after that. On the surface everything was great, but scratch it and there was a whole world of hatred for women.

ahbollocks · 05/05/2015 17:30

My ex bil. I go pale thinking about him
He hated feminity rather than women, which is hard to explain. He hated high heels, make up, pink, glitter, soft voices, beauty/hair salons, girly programs, any beauty enhancement, girly drinks (ie rose, chardonnay, champagne, cocktails)
Like reeeeally hated. He would rant and rant and rant.
He actually shoved me offpavement when I was in high heels, to prove a woman couldnt balance properly in them. I fell into traffic, breaking my ankle.
Never saw him again and hope I never do.
He does have some form of depression, so was let off the hook by everyone except me. He never apologised.

HelenaDove · 05/05/2015 17:35

ahbollocks he sounds like a bloody psychopath.

MrsGentlyBenevolent · 05/05/2015 17:45

Both my mother and father hated women, in different ways.

My father was a 'typical' abuser, violent, thought women needed to know their place. He had been screwed up something rotten by his own mother, but that's not an excuse.

My mother was not so typical, but she most certainly 'loved men, hated women'. After my parents split, she trotted out the 'I'm a strong independent woman, I'm a feminist', line daily. If that means bullying every other woman around her, calling them stupid, ugly, whores, sleeping around, laughing behind the backs of unsuspecting wives and girlfriends is 'feminism', I think we have a long way to go. I think my mother's issue was, she had been queen B at school, all the boys loved her, all the girls were scared of her, she never grew out of it. If they weren't likely to kill each other, my parents were a perfect, horrid, match.

In day to day life, not so much, certainly been very lucky not to have a 'fear'. One bloke did start having an attitude with me last time I was pregnant, said I should give up work asap (I had morning sickness ffs). I put it down to his culture, we often had 'discussions' on his views that men should work, women should raise kids. He wasn't nasty in his opinions, just been raised in a very different culture.

Idontseeanydragons · 05/05/2015 17:49

Yes thinking about it I do know one.
He doesn't just hate women he's scared of them as well I think.
His on/off ex had an injunction against him when he hospitalised her, sadly she is now expecting again with him and he has wormed his way back into her good books Angry
There have been various violent incidents over the last few years but he somehow comes up smelling of roses, possibly because he has a superficial charm about him and so many people talk about him as "ah it's only xxxx, he's alright really" - women as well as men!
But if you actually look at him when a woman speaks he sneers and rolls his eyes even while he's being charming. He only ever acknowledges women who are quieter or in a more vulnerable position - never anyone who is likely to tell him to fuck off like me. Or DH
I've been known to walk out of a room if he walks into it and I believe my comment about him being a disgusting little shit reached him some time ago.
I almost want him to raise an issue with me AngryAngry

loveareadingthanks · 05/05/2015 17:50

I wouldn't say hatred, but plenty of men who have a low opinion of women.

Humansatnav · 05/05/2015 17:52

I was at collage with one. He was totally dismissive of any female tutors, rude to female students / kitchen staff/ lab techs & was sanctioned for telling a tutor who had a miscarriage that it was ok as it was probably a girl. Vile human being

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 05/05/2015 17:58

I'd have loved your other half or a male relative to hAvd gotten hold of him. He'd of shat himself faced with a man. The big brave hard knocking screaming at a women.
If it happened in work you should of you've not already done so report him to HR because that is abuse.Flowers

ahbollocks · 05/05/2015 18:08

Yeah he was/is totally gone I think. I shudder to think of what poor woman ends up with him.
His girlfriend who was with him while I knew him dumped him while he was working abroad and literally vanished. She seemed terrified of him.

MoreBeta · 05/05/2015 18:12

Yes I worked for a management consultancy firm.

My manager hated women, the managing partner (who appointed my boss) and the senior partner (who appointed the managing partner) also both hated women.

Absolutely hated women yet were all married. They were frightened actually. My wife met them all and they were visibly nervous of her.

Weird.

ClayLover · 05/05/2015 18:20

My dad is like that.

As children my sister and I were never allowed long hair as "only vain sluts have long hair". My mum has never been allowed long hair whilst married to him.

As a teenager he called me lots of nasty names such as slut, whore, slag, cunt, etc.

He cannot cope with women that speak back to him. My mum never does but I do and so he hates me now. Good.

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 05/05/2015 18:21

Has anyone noticed how the fat, ugly, balding middle aged misogynistic Phil Mitchell types also make up 99% of UKIP voters?

PowderMum · 05/05/2015 18:22

I had the unfortune to work with a man like this once, he came into our company when his was bought by my boss and he though he was a cut above me, although as there was only a job for one of us he was made redundant. He had a long notice period and took great pleasure in goading me for weeks on end, telling me that I didn't know what I was doing, that I did it all wrong and would never be a success. That he didn't believe in employing women, unless they were for minor roles such as answering the phone and fetching coffee. He kept pushing and my boss offered no support, just told me that he was leaving (in 6 month's time) and eventually I cracked and pointed out to him loudly in the middle of our large open plan office how if he was so good at his job and was able to run such a successful business, why was his company forced to sell due to bad business management. He have a comeback but did put in a formal complaint about me for undermining him in front of colleagues, something that my boss would never forgive me for. I outlasted him by a few years but then left as this blot on my record was affecting my promotion aspirations.

ScaryMaryHinge · 05/05/2015 18:26

I used to work with a man who genuinely hated women, but fortunately he was more pathetic than scary.

He was gay, and had somehow come to the conclusion that all men were gay but women entrapped them and stopped them from being themselves. I know that sounds bizarre, and I suspect he may have had MH issues, he was certainly a fully paid up member of the tinfoil hat brigade, he believed every conspiracy theory going.

He especially hated pregnant women and women with young children as these were, to his twisted way of thinking, the worst offenders in the entrapment of men. He told a (male) college of ours that in his opinion women should be kept in barns like cattle and artificially inseminated (sp?) in order to continue the race while men got to live the lives they were meant to without the interference of women.

He wasn't angry or violent though, he was a small, pathetic man with health problems and a gambling problem which lead to him being evicted because of debts who couldn't form any kind of relationship with other people. I actually felt a bit sorry for him he was so screwed up.

Sickoffrozen · 05/05/2015 18:30

I've met lots who are indifferent to women and seem happier in the pub with their mates than spend time with their family.

I have however met one who said women are only good for 3 things...cooking, sucking and you can guess the other!

What a charmer he was. Spent every trip away sleeping with prostitutes and ended up living in Thailand! I wonder why....

annielouise · 05/05/2015 18:35

Yes, one of my DC's primary school teachers. He was a complete nasty shit for no reason, never had any problems before with any teacher and never had anything but glowing reports about kids. A few women agreed he was completely different with the male parents. I took it further and the governor actually told me on the phone "We've told XXX in no uncertain terms if he doesn't start complying he has no future in this school." Seems he was being pulled up about other stuff by the female head and female deputy. Even 10 years later I hate him and would spit on him given half the chance. Of course, nothing was done. He left to go to another school, passing the problem on.

annielouise · 05/05/2015 18:37

Meet loads of men that think they're in charge of whatever situation and they tell you how things are going to be done when it's not down to them, or those that constantly try it on (not sexually but take advantage in work or getting a crappy service etc) just because you're short and female. Picked the wrong one with me. You can see them visibly recoil sometimes when you stand up to them as they've underestimated you. Being short has meant I've had it all my life so I'm constantly battling to get the service or treatment that a man would get given automatically.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 05/05/2015 18:49

The father of a former boyfriend. He loathed women, and openly stated we were only of use for cooking and cleaning. He also believed his first wife had deliberately become pregnant to trap him, and when she finally threw him out he would write to his children telling them their mother was a whore.

He also refused to offer any financial support for his daughter post-16 because as far as he was concerned she didn't need to stay at school to finish her exams because girls don't need qualifications. I was doing my A'levels at the time, this meant I was an uppity bitch, even more so when I defended his daughter.

He routinely referred to women as cunts, bitches, whores, sluts etc. He even refused to own a female dog.

He didn't have a background of neglect and abuse though, or suffer from low self-esteem. In fact, he was an only child, born after his parents had been married for over twenty years. His mother doted on him and thought no mere woman could possibly be good enough. If anything, I think he was the living embodiment of Little Emperor Syndrome.

MrsItsNoworNotatAll · 05/05/2015 18:54

Yes a few. Very pathetic individuals. Bil doesn't like women and I've recently come to realise he doesn't like me much either. I don't give him the time of day much no, luckily I don't have to have much to do with him.

Unfortunately my daughters seem to worship him.

MrsItsNoworNotatAll · 05/05/2015 18:57

And to add to that I've also met women who hate men simply because they are men. They must all be twats or just weak feeble idiots who'll never get a girlfriend or some such bollocks.

I just ignore that shit as I can't understand it.

ninilegsintheair · 05/05/2015 19:02

My ex-husband. Has a lot of mummy issues and is convinced all women cheat (as she cheated on his dad and did a whole host of other things, although the only person who told him all those things was his very manipulative dad). He frequently told me he intends to dance on his mum's grave when she dies. He loves making comments on 'fat' women when hes 19st himself. He's convinced himself women are money-grabbing slags. Its sad as hes desperate for a 50s housewife woman.

Still, it's going to end well. He'll have another woman to hate when our divorce is finalised.

hackmum · 05/05/2015 19:05

Yes, I have, though don't have any stories to compare with some of these.

OP, out of interest, have you posted that story before? I'm sure someone posted something similar to this last year. Of course, it could just be that there's a lot of it about.

ChaiseLounger · 05/05/2015 19:12

No. I have met vile managers who appeared to not like anyone, but nit a woman-hater, no.

Imustgodowntotheseaagain · 05/05/2015 19:36

My ex. Took me too long to realise. Hated intelligent, career women. Hated his brother's wife because she asked her husband to do things, like chop logs or lay the table, and was thus a demanding harpy. Hated his female boss for calling him out when he missed deadlines. Hated my neighbour for looking at him funny.

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