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NOT to think this woman should be "mom of the year"?

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ender · 29/04/2015 11:59

Washington Post link
She was upset and angry and lost control, perhaps understandable under the circumstances. But no reason to repeatedly beat her 16 yr old son round the head. It looked like he would have gone home with her without all that.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 02/05/2015 16:46

If you read what they say in the report about his neck, it's not bone weakness that was the apparent problem - it's spinal cord damage and voice box crushing.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/05/2015 20:29

Absolutely, Thumbwitch - I suppose what I meant was whether the (possible?) lead damage had weakened the surrounding bones and made things more susceptible to crushing?

As I said, though, I have no medical knowledge, so it's probably a good job that they'll have the experts available at the trial!!

creighton · 02/05/2015 21:03

Who reported him as having suffered lead poisoning?was it the police who severed his spine and are now trying to distance themselves from their actions?
Why don't you stop apologising for the killers?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/05/2015 22:37

Sorry if this frustrates your endlessly repeated these-police-are-bastards narrative, Creighton, but it was actually in the Washington Post that I read about a 2008 lead-poisoning lawsuit filed by Gray and his siblings against the property owner ... resulted in an undisclosed settlement. I honestly don't know whether the police have mentioned it recently, but obviously it was known about long before this happened

Let me say again that I have no idea whether the lead's effects made any difference or not; it was simply a question I wondered about, but if it makes you happy to attach some weird agenda to it, please don't let me stand in your way ...

BigChocFrenzy · 03/05/2015 01:06

The WP published the story about the lead poisoning court case because conservative news sources were apparently wrongly claiming it was a court case for spinal damages received in a car crash. The WP says Gray had NOT suffered any previous spinal injuries; well, he was fit enough to run away from the police.

The WP said lead poisoning causes behavioural problems, aggression, bad decision-making. They were trying to counter the demonisation of every black male killed by the police: he was a criminal, he ran away, his own fault ....

It seems possible Gray suffered some spinal injuries during arrest, when witnesses reported his legs & back were bent "like a prezel" Possibly also someone put a knee on his larynx, which is when it was ruptured.

Anyway, he was handcuffed, feet shackled and put in a van without seatbelt or safety bar. So, he would have been thrown around, possibly intentionally. Any spinal injury would have been worsened. The autopsy apparently showed his broken spine required tremendous force, far more than he could have inflicted on himself (debunking another conservative theory)

Some US police forces have paid out millions in damages for suspects given a deliberately rough ride and seriously disabled.
The van driver is the one who was charged with the most serious offence, 2nd degree murder, which adds weight to that theory.

creighton · 03/05/2015 10:52

the police had no reason to arrest the man. 6 of them gave him a rough ride around Baltimore in the back of their van causing his spinal cord to snap and did not get him the medical attention he needed. they and their representatives are now trying to blame the dead man for his own death.

these policemen and women certainly are bastards.

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