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Scottish identity

520 replies

chocoluvva · 26/04/2015 18:31

Do you feel you have one?

If you're not Scottish living in Scotland, do you think there is a Scottish identity?

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Roseformeplease · 26/04/2015 19:53

I can see you out of my window, Eigg.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/04/2015 19:59

I feel Scottish. I was born in England. Is that allowed?

I think a national identity is much more about how you feel, where you live rather than where you were born.

There is something different about Scotland and rUK but I'm not quite sure what it is. Polls on attitudes have shown that Scotland is broadly in line with rUK, but we seem to often vote differently (though perhaps if we didn't have FPTP that would be less glaring).

BakewellSlice · 26/04/2015 20:02

I feel Central Belt and urban parts of North of England and Wales have much in common.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/04/2015 20:05

But then so does central belt, north of England and Wales and much of the world with similar demographics and geography.

Ubik1 · 26/04/2015 20:12

I'm English and live in Glasgow.

I don't feel Scottish but I do feel part of the community and part of this great country. I find the people open, friendly with a great sense of humour a real sense of the ridiculous and the absurd. I find Scots much more direct and upfront than English. They are much more argumentative which took a bit of getting used to at work. They expect you to fight your corner.

I'd say Scots can seem quite dour and unfriendly to us English folk. English colleagues are quite positive and cheery on the whole. But once Scots think you are ok then they are incredibly kind, generous, funny and to be honest hedonistic people.

I love my adopted country. And its people. (I've surprised myself with how strongly I feel)

NonDom · 26/04/2015 20:14

I'm Scottish but a bit embarrassed about it these days.

tilliebob · 26/04/2015 20:16

Also with 83ash 100%.

morage · 26/04/2015 20:20

I was born in Scotland and brought up there. Now I live in England. I don't feel Scottish, although I have an obvious Scottish accent.

BakewellSlice · 26/04/2015 20:32

That's funny Ubik - I'm from the English urban North west and rather like the less direct and more unassuming style here in Scotland, however I get slightly frustrated at what I see as conformism.

e.g. I don't think SQA / CfE would be getting away such little scrutiny south of the border.

Mind you in politics we are safe from "crazee" non-conformists like BoJo! I do like the dependable style of Nicola Sturgeon and John Swinney though I don't like their aims!

chocoluvva · 26/04/2015 20:33

It seems that posters who feel Scottish or who identify a Scottish identity do so mostly because of perceived personality traits/attributes - usually described as kind, friendly, taking pride in their country; are there any values or belief systems that posters feel are Scottish?

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NonDom · 26/04/2015 20:35

Nicola Sturgeon reminds me of Arthur Scargill

BakewellSlice · 26/04/2015 20:36

Her hairdresser might be affronted at that!

NonDom · 26/04/2015 20:38

Helmet head is not a compliment!

Annunziata · 26/04/2015 20:39

Are you writing an essay?

chocoluvva · 26/04/2015 20:43

Not writing an essay.

I've often wondered what people who strongly identify as Scottish see as being peculiar to Scottish people (or the population of Scotland).

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Ubik1 · 26/04/2015 20:47

Hmm

I think there is strong socialist tradition, they are obsessed with fairness - look at corroboration. Strong 'a man's a man for all that' sensibility. I get the sense that poverty is only a generation away for many and there is a strong understanding abd sympathy with what it's like to struggle . That said there is also an emphasis on wc respectability and keeping up with the joneses.

Perhaps I see a greater difference as I was raised in London. Perhaps it's similar in Yorkshire, Wales etc I don't know

TheChandler · 26/04/2015 20:57

Not really, I feel more British and Northern European. I feel as if I have more in common with someone in Northumberland. Growing up in east coast farming communities, i find a lot of the fervent nationalism a bit fake, e.g. The pushing of Gaelic, the obsession with being Scottish, tge pedalling of the idea that no Scots Conservative. This very excitable, bossy, forceful attitude seems so foreign from the reliable, measured, calm Scots I know. I feel i have more in common with someone from rural Jutland than Nicola Sturgeon and get cronies.

OneNight · 26/04/2015 21:08

I'm not 'Scottish' - I'm from Glasgow ! Grin

Eigg · 26/04/2015 21:09

Rose that is in no way disturbing...

Eigg · 26/04/2015 21:15

How am I looking today Rose?

Can you see Rhum too or is it lost in the mist?

professornangnang · 26/04/2015 21:17

Ireland colonised Scotland in the 6th century, hence Gaelic being spoken and Mac names being there etc... So, the Highland Scots have always been very different to the Anglo Saxons in the south. I think that may be why they have a clear sense of identity.

JackSkellington · 26/04/2015 21:18

I identify as Scottish, I don't identify as British at all, however I do recognise that legally I am.

Roseformeplease · 26/04/2015 21:20

I can see you both. Blue sky, lots of big grey clouds but, as usual, more over your neighbour than you.

JackSkellington · 26/04/2015 21:20

In fact I would say Scottish and European, I like being a part of the EU too. :)

chocoluvva · 26/04/2015 21:22

Apparently there is a hefty dose of Viking genes in the northern isles and north of Scotland professornangnang

So far no-one has mentioned parenting styles....

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