i would fricken BAN smoking at tables outside eating establishments

[ElizabethHoover]

Its just GOPPING.
Its like a nicotine based apartheid ( slight overstatement) where the TINY percentage of smokers (a sixth of the population) in the country force the rest of us inside to get away from their stench and litter.

GRR

It's irrelevant why you came on this thread Helena (same to every single person on this thread)

Your comment and actions were distasteful and nothing to do with this thread. You did it purely to belittle me and feel superior yourself - there is no other reason for what you did.

Maybe don't hold grudges against people you've never met and only conversed briefly with once on an internet forum. It just makes you come across as bitter.

lullaby after the way you were going on about health on the Jamelia thread i assumed you would feel that way across the board.

I didnt even realise you were on this thread till i got to the end.

I didnt do it to belittle you.

Omg Helena stop trying to justify what you did. You are in the wrong regardless of what lullaby said on a previous thread. I'm the third person to say this to you now.

My father died of lung cancer at 73 my mother died of emphesema at 82.

My partner died of a heart attack at 37 (he was in a car crash and had a T3 break to his back, so a paraplegic).One of my best friends died under a bus at the age of 42, she was a despatch rider. My sons Godmother died of lupus at 50. It happens.

daffs im so sorry to hear you have been through all that

Thank you Helena, I was just trying to point out that it happens. We never know when or how huh. Smoking isn't a burn at the stake thing to do

i assumed you would feel that way across the board.

.... There are no words. Do you know why I would never assume that YOU think or feel something? Because I don't fucking know you.

Why would I pompously come onto a thread to drag up something you'd said previously? Because using your logic it would be because I actually know you and your opinions better than you know yourself.

Heres a hint, don't assume you know anonymous people on internet forums and try and dictate to them what they really think.

Of course you did it to belittle me and look smug and will justify it until you're blue in the face.

Agree Daffs this is going to sound nuts but even though i rarely go into a pub (teetotal) i kind of miss the smoky smell when i do. I overheard someone say that you can smell other peoples BO now cos the smoke used to mask it. I agree with the ban though because its not fair for bar staff to be exposed to it all day and/or night.

OY ladies.. We all do that sometimes, I recognise a name rarely but I do and want to trash them some how some way due to me taking it personally bet you'd quite like each other in real life though.

HelenaDove. Life. Get one. Sad that you caused an argument only to get attention, are you really that bored? Also hilarious you cannot admit to being in the wrong.

I recognise a name rarely but I do and want to trash them some how some way due to me taking it personally

I think I'm tired so might not be reading this correctly, but did you just say you rarely recognise names but when you do it's because you took what they said personally and therefore want to trash them?

Erm, im not sure why you need to go on the attack here. Leave Helena alone. people do stuff, you do too. she's my mate now. People who protest too much sometimes are the real bastards.

OK im sorry. It was the wrong thing to do It galls me a bit that one group in society seem to be seen as the "safe prejudice" But this was the wrong thread to bring it up on so i do apologize.

I think you may be tired. Im saying what we all do sometimes. I'd not kill the reasonable one here if i were you or I'll remember you

No Jared I have a fairly good memory. But i have aplogised now It was the wrong thread to do it on Like i said my dh has COPD. Which is why i read this thread.

Helena, we all do it, we all have our "buttons" that can be pressed.

I probably have copd or the early stages, it's my choice to smoke. It isn't anyone elses business to tell me to move when im outside having a meal and light up. Get over yourselves.

she's my mate now

Ok. And? Are you both going to gang up on me together. Weird

An apology isn't an apology when you follow up with a justification. Just saying.

EXACTLY Daff We have bodily autonomy in this country .

Some of you might think about loving smokers a bit more. I smoke a packet a day so generate about £2800 more tax revenue p.a. above my income tax/VAT etc etc. Isn't about 30% of tax revenue is spent of children in the form of state education and child benefits? I don't have kids but you're all welcome to the benefits of my filthy fag tax money.

As for an outdoor (and indoor,even) ban - perhaps each individual establishment could determine the most appropriate policy for their customers? Lest we forget, the original proposal for pubs was basically food or fags - take your choice. My central London local took a vote and the fags won unanimously despite the food being pretty good. A vote taken in a suburban boozer with a more family clientele would have probably chosen food. One size rarely fits all.

Lastly, any other Londoners here will know we've had serious air quality issues in the inner boroughs this year. All that reduce exercise - keep old dears indoors type stuff. Is the pollution from the 16% who smoke or the

My friend once went on a dating website. She had been single for twenty years. Her choice of man from many was;

A non smoker
Non drinker
Dislikes pubs
Dislikes crowded places
Likes isolation
Dislikes parties
Hates Pets

etc etc

Basically the EXACT opposite of all of her friends for the last twenty years.

She met a wanker. He has made her cry every day for years.

Its like a nicotine based apartheid ( slight overstatement)

Who is this much of a cunt? Really? In real life, who is such a massive fucking arsehole that they think a waft of tobacco smoke is comparable to fucking APARTHEID?

Fuck you, you pathetic attention seeking shitbag.

I bet the OP coughs pathetically when she has to sit near a smoker outside a cafe.