to ask how to explain to my colleagues why they shouldn't vote Ukip

[msgrinch]

That's it really I've tried my best but they're both fixated on immigration.

tell them your not stupid or a bigot or a goady fucker
(one is not true)

Why? They're adults, therefore they can vote for who they want to.

Personally I'd just refuse to talk politics at work.

Politics and religion are big causes of arguments, so best avoided in a work setting.

You won't be able to convince everyone. Maybe tell them the voting has been moved to the next day to suit the immigrants.

They are adults. They don't need you to tell them how to vote.

They know who I'm voting for and why. I'm just struggling to explain to two 18 year olds why I wouldn't vote Ukip. They've only seen the farage "I'm a working man having a pint image".

Did they ask you to tell them who they should or should not vote for?

Are you the Office Voting Officer?

Have you read 1984?

Do you know what democracy means?

Tell them you're interested and ask for the facts. If they can find real data to back up their claims, then I agree that they're adukts and can vote for who they choose. But if they discover all the data that shows that immigration makes a net profit for our country, and that problems with housing, the nhs and the economy are part of larger, ongoing and international systems, not the fault of migrants, then hopeilly they will find out for themselves why it's not a good idea to vote for Ukip

If they're voting UKIP they clearly need some kind of help from someone.

I wish they would stop talking politics at work but it's pretty hard to hear "at least they'll go back to their own county", "we won't have to support foreigners anymore" or "our tax money will be spent on English people"

Your thread title says why they shouldn't vote UKIP?

You should all vote for who you want to.

I wouldn't vote UKIP, but I wouldn't tell anyone else who to vote for. As BuriedSardine has already stated, we live in a democracy and they can vote for who they want.

It is none of your business who they vote for.

That's what they're asking "why shouldn't they vote for them?" as in they're the best option.

I think I'd just have minimal contact with them.
It's not your place to educate them but I can understand why you might want as little to do with them as possible.

In a democracy we are allowed to try to influence other people, otherwise why do people distribute leaflet, knock doors etc to talk about who they want to vote for?
I know the OP sounds a bit superior, but really does no-one talk to anyone about their reasons for voting a certain way?

It is a free country which means that people can chose who to vote for. I wouldn't want to live in a society where anyone wasn't allowed a free regardless of how wrong I felt their choice to be.

I'm rather inclined not to waste my time trying to change the mindset of someone with the kind of values that might drive them to vote UKIP. Bigots are rather difficult to reason with.
If they were actually friends I'd be reevaluating my relationship with them.

No-one knows who I'm voting for as it's not something I want to discuss (although it's not UKIP!)

And I certainly wouldn't want to discuss politics at work.

OP if they're bothering you by spouting misguided shit, just have a quiet word with management and hopefully they'll keep a handle on it.

What is this obsession on mn with telling people who they should and shouldn't vote for they're adults and who they vote for isn't anyone's business.

The OP said she wants to tell them why they shouldn't vote UKIP.

Not rip up their voting cards and disenfranchise them.

Democracy depends on healthy debate and information sharing. It's not much of a democracy if you're scared that a conversation is all it takes to undermine the vote.

If you want to say anything, tell them to read every party's manifesto and policies that has a candidate in your area, and make an informed decision. If they are going to vote UKIP, they should really know exactly what they're voting for, but if UKIP's policies is what they believe in then they should vote for them. We live in a democracy, even if we don't like other people's political opinions, they're entitled to have them.

Actually I'm really grateful to work somewhere where I'm 100% certain that I don't have colleagues with that mindset. It would be a disciplinary offence in any case to express views like that at work.

I wish I could tell management! She's not remotely interested in anything I don't care about their vote but when they're asking me "well why shouldn't we vote Ukip we'll get England back for English people." it's hard to respond without pulling a face. I understand how it's easy (ish) to get carried away but I don't know how to explain to them why not to in a clear way they'd listen to.

msgrinch - go over to AIBU and look at the loud and proud thread for ideas.

I have a wide circle of friends. I know some who will vote Labour, some Conservative, a few green. I don't know of any pending UKIP voters though. However, it's their choice and none of my business. People are free to do as they choose. It's not up to you to 'educate' them as to how they should vote. Anyway, people change as they get older, get married, have kids, etc and often vote differently from how they voted at 18.

I don't agree that we shouldn't encourage people to think about their vote. The press have no compunction in giving news with an angle. Discussing any problem is good.