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To Wonder Why Tory Voters Support a £13bn cut in benefits (inc tax credits) when hardly any tory voters even receive these benefits?

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Amylovesgalaxyeggs · 08/04/2015 17:33

Tory voters statistically earn more and live in constituencies that have higher property values.

Tory voters statistically would be less likely to rely on tax credits or other benefits that will be cut by the party.

Aibu to wonder why a group of voters would vote for a party that wants to cut something that they don't claim. Sounds like a of reverse Robin Hood to me.

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Dawndonnaagain · 14/04/2015 16:18

What assessments do

caroldecker · 14/04/2015 18:39

morethan you would have paid for the childcare out of your income - your choice to have 3 kids with large age gap.

Universal benefit is designed to work in real time, so as to keep up with inconsistent hours and changes. The cost has not been lost, because the project is continuing, problems are being ironed out and the Labour party manifesto supports it, so it will happen either way.

Unlike the over £10bn that was completely wasted in the Labour years on the NHS IT system that they abandoned.

LotusLight · 14/04/2015 19:06

Yes, people make a choice to have children and have an obligation to support them. We should all try in life to give more than we take.
That's why many of us who work full time have our babies in a year or two of each other - we had three under 4 and I was back at work having just taken 2 weeks of annual leave for each one. Yes it's hard but it's the way to a better life for many.

morethanpotatoprints · 14/04/2015 19:33

caroldecker

Unless I'm mistaken, childcare would have been paid through tax credits not income as we would still have been a low income family with me working.
The calculator and themselves said up to 70% of childcare paid.
Universal credit could still be scrapped, don't kid yourself and what terms the conservative have given may be completely different to what another may party may decide. I have a friend who has worked/ continued to work on the system since it began, by her admittance they haven't a clue what they are doing or what is happening in the future.
Our area was part of the initial trial, as were all the other degenerated areas around here, what a surprise. Grin

Lotus

No disrespect but I didn't work full time when I had dc, we wanted a sahp as this is what we value. No way would I have dreamed to leave them after a few weeks, and it certainly wouldn't have been a better life for us.
You do know don't you that you can't always conceive when you want to?

Callmebrian · 14/04/2015 20:26

No way would I have dreamed to leave them after a few weeks, and it certainly wouldn't have been a better life for us.

But can you see how you were enabled to do that by taxpayers money?

BetterTogether75 · 14/04/2015 21:07

I hope I'm still alive in 20 years. Demographics will do for the Tories if nothing else does first.

morethanpotatoprints · 14/04/2015 21:22

callmebrian

No, I can't see how it makes any difference tbh.
The tax payers money would have had to pay for our childcare, tax credits while useful don't provide a wage to substantiate not being in employment.
I'm not suggesting it should btw.

So many people have the idea that its a choice to take tax credits rather than work for an employer, because it pays as much as it does if you were earning an income. This isn't the case and you have to have very few outgoings to be able to afford not to work, with tc or not.

I will agree though obviously, that tax payers fund tc, of course they do.
There is a subtle difference. Ther are plenty of people who wouldn't receive anywhere near the amount of tc to enable them to sah and this should be noted.

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