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To ask if you are voting SNP?

562 replies

SpiceAddict · 03/04/2015 11:10

How do you think they are going to 'end austerity'? How will this be financed? You can't just suddenly invest more in infrastructure etc to create more jobs if there is no.money.

If it is going to be financed by stopping trident, then we will lose US support - not really a good idea....

Labour are going to increase tax for higher payers, mansion tax etc in order to fund their investments.

I live in Yorkshire and we really don't get the support for SNP. They don't make sense to me, but as they seem to be so popular, please can someone actually why?

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StillLostAtTheStation · 04/04/2015 01:29

You are not being unreasonable to ask. I am not voting SNP.

Buddy2go · 04/04/2015 08:42

I agree with lucky. If the SNP were truly doing all they could for the Scottish population they wouldn't have an underspend of £444MILLION last year . Education, infrastructure and justice were the biggest losers , all areas crying out for more money to be spent. They can can still spend it this year of course, the year they hoped would be the start of independence...was it squirrelled away to be spent on preparations for it or to throw around to for a feel good factor ? Either way blaming Westminster for lack of money obviously another lie.

blowinahoolie · 04/04/2015 08:44

Not happy at all this morning to wake up hearing the smearing Nicola Sturgeon has got about secretly wanting David Cameron to be PM again. What a load of utter shite! She has said no such thing!! Bloody hell, the Telegraph will stoop to the lowest levels to brand her a villain.

blowinahoolie · 04/04/2015 08:48

"no-one is paying Council tax in Scotland"

Jings, I must have missed this circular! When did this happen?! Shock

WildFlowersAttractBees · 04/04/2015 08:53

Yanbu to ask. I am not voting for them.

All you hear from them is free university education... no mention of the 140,000 less college places in Scotland due to the SNP's centralisation policy.
Education should be for all, not just the cleverest in society.

Buddy2go · 04/04/2015 08:59

I haven't read the article but of course Cameron getting in will be best for NS and the SNP. Why else do you think the SNP have done so well recently? When the UK as a whole turned away from labour, England looked the Tories, and Scotland to the SNP (sweeping generalisation I know). The more NS can claim we are separate from UK politics the better the SNP position. Divisive negative politics to come dressed up in hope and caring.

CrystalCove · 04/04/2015 09:06

Hillingdon your point about the SNP having "too much money" because of free prescriptions is tired as it is ignorant .....health is devolved in Scotland to the Scottish Parliament and as such the SNP as government decided this...out of the health budget that comes from Westminster. Westminster who are responsible for decisions about the NHS in England and Wales have chosen not to do this but have spent money on services that the SNP haven't eg walk in centres - these don't exist in Scotland. if you want free prescriptions lobby your own MP.

CrystalCove · 04/04/2015 09:08

Blowinaholie the only thing positive about this attempted smear against Nicola is that she must be doing something right otherwise she wouldn't be getting attacked. Can't wait for the election results personally!

ishallnamehimsquishy · 04/04/2015 09:11

I'm Scottish and wouldn't vote for them if you paid me.

Pretty much what johncusackswife said sums up my opinion.

LotusLight · 04/04/2015 09:13

I was quite looking forward to the Scots going. There would never have been a Labour Government in England again and we might be able to do a lot of things to benefit the English for once like no student fees, no prescription charges and the like.

NS is doing well. We need many more good leaders who are female (and I write that as a Thatcherite Tory supporter from England).

I want the Scots to vote SNP to keep Labour out.

awaynboilyurheid · 04/04/2015 09:14

I pay council tax when did that stop? Another one who will not be voting SNP. I voted No on the referendum too. However I am growing to like Nicola Sturgeon she certainly held her own and even ruffled the feathers of the big two at the debate.She also put Farage in his place with her comment on people from abroad, with HIV, getting life saving treatment from the NHS," I am a politician but I am a human being first "she said I thought that was brilliant she gave Farage a quick lesson on humanity .

I think Labout can be a bit complacent that working class areas of Scotland will always vote for them. They need to start making real changes to help youngsters or more will vote SNP

I just think one of the other parties should have called the SNP on their economic policies of funding all their promises with the North sea oil money, which has turned out to be rubbish as oil prices have plummeted and if we had based Scotlands economy on that, we would be in big trouble now.

awaynboilyurheid · 04/04/2015 09:20

Oh and the irony of Nick Clegg asking Ed Milliband to apologise to the public for something was not lost on us . He actually was nasty when he said it shouting apologise in a loud voice He always comes over well but showed his true colours here and took attack as the easiest form of defence If I was a Liberal I would want to get rid of him he has sold them out to the Tories , they are interchangable now.

SquirrelledAway · 04/04/2015 09:23

The oil price dropping to $50/barrel would have left the SNP with an estimated £18.6 billion hole in its tax projections if had been a Yes vote last year.

ScotsWhaHae · 04/04/2015 09:27

Lotus, why do you think having Scotland in the UK is preventing the UK government offering people in England free prescriptions?

blowinahoolie · 04/04/2015 09:41

I was also baffled by Lotus's statement too...there is nothing to stop NHS England from starting free prescriptions too, you know! Scotland was sharp to cotton on the fastest, that's all (as usual).

BakewellSlice · 04/04/2015 09:41

The Tories are willing an SNP landslide!

blowinahoolie · 04/04/2015 09:44

Might be the case BakewellSlice but smearing lies and untruths about the First Minister was a low blow yesterday. She said nothing of the sort. Sums up the Torygraph though.

Golferman · 04/04/2015 09:54

I live in Scotland and won't be voting for the Silly Nonsense Party but then I am English.

TheChandler · 04/04/2015 09:55

Getting away from the who said what angle, it would make sense for the SNP to not be upset by a Conservative victory in the GE.

Since much if their argument is based on Scotland voting differently from England and pushing the differences between the countries to create as much division as possible. Although in the last GE, the number of Scots voting Conservative wasn't actually that much lower than those voting SNP - they just won less seats, as their vote was spread out over more of the country as a whole.

ScotsWhaHae · 04/04/2015 10:04

We weren't first blowing the Welsh beat us to it!

SirChenjin · 04/04/2015 10:05

"no-one is paying Council tax in Scotland"

You obviously missed the subsequent circular where I explained my error.

As for lies and untruths - that's the SNP's modus operandi. Their outraged moral indignation is really quite amusing.

ScotsWhaHae · 04/04/2015 10:16

'Wasn't actually that much lower' equates to around 80k votes more for the SNP than conservative.

That's FPTP for you. Given Labour commanded over 40% of the Scottish vote in 2010 the other 3 came in sharing the rest of the vote. SNP and Liberals actually lost seats to Labour.

Scottish 2010 vote breakdown

Large parts of Scotland would vote for a dog if it had a Labour rosette on.

So you can see why Labour are scared. They rely on Scotland returning Labour MPs and have rested on their laurels. Lib dem generally do ok in Scotland but many won't forgive the Tory coalition. Conservative barely bother to campaign in Scotland for general elections. They don't need our vote.

TheChandler · 04/04/2015 10:19

I think its obvious the council tax post was a typo. In fact in Scotland until recently at least, we paid higher council tax than in England. I remember paying £130 a month for a two bed flat. Nit sure how that compares now. And if I hadn't sold up but kept it while I work abroad, id have to pay 200% council tax just to keep my own home in Scotland!

TheChandler · 04/04/2015 10:25

ScotsWhaHae the Scottish vote for Conservative wasn't as negligible in the Las GE as the SNP like to make out.

If you listened to them, you would think almost no one in Scotland voted conservative. When in fact it was around 412,000 compared to 490,000 -figures might nit be spot on.

just generally find Scottish politics a bit dominated by the traditional central belt heartlands, and male rhetoric, which tends to talk patronisingly over any dissent and vote for those they think will give them and their friends contracts.

Others may have different impressions.

CrystalCove · 04/04/2015 10:27

Why should anyone be surprised the SNP want independence, the clue is in the party title after all! What matters at the moment is results - number of seats equals number of MPs so it doesnt matter how little people may think the Tories are behind in numbers re votes as they only have one seat at the moment in Scotland and I would really doubt this is going to change, may get another if they are lucky but that would be it.