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To ask if you are voting SNP?

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SpiceAddict · 03/04/2015 11:10

How do you think they are going to 'end austerity'? How will this be financed? You can't just suddenly invest more in infrastructure etc to create more jobs if there is no.money.

If it is going to be financed by stopping trident, then we will lose US support - not really a good idea....

Labour are going to increase tax for higher payers, mansion tax etc in order to fund their investments.

I live in Yorkshire and we really don't get the support for SNP. They don't make sense to me, but as they seem to be so popular, please can someone actually why?

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PrimalLass · 20/04/2015 20:39

TheChandler you are still saying a whole lot of nothing. Just posturing.

I may have a terrible memory but not amnesia. I don't think NS does want a referendum just now.

DowntownFunk · 20/04/2015 20:53
TheChandler · 20/04/2015 20:57

PrimalLass TheChandler you are still saying a whole lot of nothing. Just posturing.

I don't think NS does want a referendum just now

I see.

PrimalLass · 20/04/2015 21:21

I think she will be trying to avoid saying no to another referendum so that she doesn't alienate the party members but avoid saying yes because she knows it's not the right time.

unlucky83 · 20/04/2015 21:33

Or because if NS says yes all the No voters will not vote for the SNP? (Earlier on this thread iirc someone said they will be voting for the SNP purely because independence isn't on the cards in the GE...)
Typical sneaky, manipulative SNP tactics..yuk

Shesparkles · 20/04/2015 22:27

No matter what promises are made you have to remember that the SNP's whole raison d'être is to gain independence for Scotland.
They're desperate to have the balance of power (if it comes to that) so they can hold the majority party over a barrel to get further ground for independence. That's all. They're not interested in anything else.
I can't take away from NS that she's an excellent raconteur, and after Salmond, a damn sight more palatable, but she's dangerous

OOAOML · 20/04/2015 23:23

if this general election is 'not about independence' someone should tell the SNP canvassers here who asked me if I thought Scotland should be independent.

CrystalCove · 21/04/2015 07:39

Of course there will be canvassers that support independence, this is not the same as voting for it just now - it's a GE, not a referendum.

OOAOML · 21/04/2015 07:55

Of course there will be canvassers that support independence, this is not the same as voting for it just now - it's a GE, not a referendum.

Actually, I'd assume that pretty much all members of the SNP support independence. But when someone phones me and gives every impression of reading through a set series of questions, I was rather surprised that he asked me about independence, considering that the party leadership has been at such pains to point out that this election is not about independence.

CrystalCove · 21/04/2015 08:28

All members may support independence but most people who will vote in the GE wont be actual members of any political party. I know some people who voted No in the referendum who are now voting SNP, which I assume contributes to the poll I saw on Sky News this morning putting SNP at 47% and Labour at 26%.

unlucky83 · 21/04/2015 10:02

All members may support independence but most people who will vote in the GE wont be actual members of any political party.
Which is why NS won't say No or Yes to a future referendum...she doesn't want to lose the votes of the majority of the ones who don't want independence ...or the cost (to society as well as financial) of another referendum.
SNP don't have a non-independent Scotland's interest at heart, they do have an Independent Scotland's
They don't even have the interest of poorer people at heart...they would have completely different policies if Scotland was a Tory stronghold... the reason their policies are Labour's just one step to the left.
Labour can't promise the same because they know they might have to actually find the money for them - the SNP can afford to promise more ....with no real pressure to deliver. (In coalition it will be we wanted to but the nasty Labour government wouldn't let us = more support in the future...unless it backfires like it has on the Lib dems -who also had non workable policies)

OOAOML · 21/04/2015 10:23

I am merely sharing my experience of being canvassed, Crystal It doesn't really matter, because despite having voted SNP in 2011 I now find it very hard to imagine ever voting for them again, whether or not they decide to put another rederendum in a future manifesto.

I have seen the polls. I am prepared for the fact that the MP who has been a good voice for my constituency and prepared to vote against their own party on occasion will be replaced by a second rate SNP councillor who will have signed up to the pledge that no MPs are able to criticise the party leadership, and that I will have an MP who will do whatever they are told to.

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