To ask if you are voting SNP?

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How do you think they are going to 'end austerity'? How will this be financed? You can't just suddenly invest more in infrastructure etc to create more jobs if there is no.money.

If it is going to be financed by stopping trident, then we will lose US support - not really a good idea....

Labour are going to increase tax for higher payers, mansion tax etc in order to fund their investments.

I live in Yorkshire and we really don't get the support for SNP. They don't make sense to me, but as they seem to be so popular, please can someone actually why?

I have no idea what Glottal stops are, have googled but still not clear.

Perhaps I speak like that unintentionally.

I have no idea what Glottal stops are

I think dropping the "t" in the middle of words so

boh-ul instead of bottle
gloh-al i instead of glottal
toa-ul instead of total.

This a dreadfully common thing to do

I didn't get any Scottish history at school, got 1066 which was before the UK was formed, learned about the blitz but not until I was an adult did I find out it also happened in Glasgow.

My partner is Irish, Irish language was compulsory at school & learning Irish history was & still is an integral part of the curriculum.

This is normal & pretty much how it is in most countries, learning how the history resulted in the relationships & contributions to other countries/the world, how they shaped each other.

Is that what it means, seriously, that's pretty much a Fife accent & many others then. Guilty as charged.

Yup. Me too. I went to a weird primary school and the Headteacher tried to stamp out glottal stops as well as ah-hah and uh-uh for yes and no.

Obviously she failed

It would be very odd not to study the history of your own country I agree, but the Scottish wars of independence, the suffragette movement and Germany from its unification up to WW1 seems like a strange combination.

I don't know, maybe I'm like my DS who says that the best part of physics is the study of space, because you kind of know about forces on earth already whereas space is vast and exciting.... wanting to study countries that seem more exotic or interesting just by virtue of them not being my home.

It's interesting that you quote the example of Ireland - I'd forgotten that the Irish curriculum includes the Irish language - is there only one Irish language I assume? - woe betide anyone who tried to make the study of (Scottish) gaelic compulsory for schools in those areas of Scotland that have never spoken gaelic! It also makes me wonder if small countries with much larger neighbours feel the need to remind their youngsters of their own history.

It feels to me like a curriculum chosen for political rather than educational reasons.

FannyFife - along with my DD's very 'Kirkcaldy' use of 'mass-uv' (massive). I am a NE-Fifer and am a bit horrified

*FannyFifer

Sorry, stupid ipad.

I would have quite liked to learn Gaelic at school, I know a bit of Irish as DP is a native speaker.

There are regional variations with the Irish language, Scots Gaelic is similar so if fluent in one then the other is easily understood.

Hah, fae posh NE Fife eh, u must be horrified by a kdy accent, lol.

Indeed

Are you more Kingsbarns or Strathkinnes material PrimalLass?

hillington what a ridiculous statement. I'm Scottish, living in Scotland, and I won't be voting for them. Don't tar us all with the same bloody brush. How ignorant.

Bunty, I thought the same, but then again if you don't vote SNP, you're either English, or scared (wtf) or a traitor.......yawn. Heard it all in the referendum and am hearing the same pish all over again.

And there's nowt wrong with a KDY accent, by the way

Proper NE Fife, none of your pretend shit

DS has a very different, more Edinburger, accent.

I'm glad my DCs will study more Scottish literature in English and more Scottish history than I did.

All I did in English was 'kidnapped' and tam o'shanter.

The only specifically Scottish rather than British history was the decline of shipbuilding and Scottish urban renewal in the 60s.

Shipbuilding didn't decline only in Scotland though. I don't know about urban renewal in the rest of the uk but I'd be surprised if it was peculiar to Scotland. happy to be proved wrong though.

As we share an island (I know there are smaller islands too) with rUK our history is intertwined - eg, the Vikings landed on both Scottish and English soil, the Romans made their way to parts of Scotland, I assume the industrial revolution affected Scotland and England more or less equally and so on. So to stress Scottish history, literature and music even though we share a language, landmass and (to a slightly lesser extent culture) with rUK smacks of political interference - stressing our differences rather than the things we have in common. Nice try SNP - pleased to say it's not working with my DS. (so far anyway)

I did my highers a scary number of years ago, in English we did Macbeth, several Thomas Hardy novels and an array of poetry. I also did SYS English where we did a lot of George Mackay Brown, whose work I adore to this day.

In history at primary school I think it was all Scottish. Lots about the '15 and the '45 and if anyone made me study run rig farming systems again I think I would scream. Early high school years I think we covered a range (Scotland, Rome, Egypt and a lot of Bronze Age & Iron Age) then for o grade 19th century UK (fascinating reforming legislation), Higher was WW1 and the 20s/30s to the outbreak of WW2. SYS History was Weimar and Nazi Germany, but that was free choice not the school's decision. I also did a couple of years of Scottish history in my degree.

I find the Burns night events at school pretty grim though - for some reason the children don't read Burns (and there's some wonderful material there) they read other Scottish poetry including lots that is very Glaswegian. I'm not from Glasgow and some of the stuff they bring home to learn is so broad I have no idea how to pronounce it. I'm also a bit confused why my son's classroom has a saltire in it - when I was at school classrooms did not have flags in them.

I think the regeneration of Glasgow is studied because it was quite a fuck up.

Same. I think I know some of the poems you mean - couthy tales indeed. What is with the interchanging of Glasgow/central belt for Scotland.

A saltire in the class! Surely that would be defined as political? Unless there is also a Union Jack?

this thread has given me the urge to and look out my George Mackay Brown stuff again so I don't have a complete hate of Scottish literature

I'm pondering whether to enquire about the saltire in the classroom at parents night chocoluvva

Thought it was just DS school who got those shitty poems to recite, some of them are impossible to pronounce and I would be well versed at reading in Scots.

I should also admit that hearing my own child recite it would be fine if I didn't then have to listen to 3 or 4 other children do the SAME VERSE there is a wealth of Scottish poetry out there that could be used!