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To ask if you are voting SNP?

562 replies

SpiceAddict · 03/04/2015 11:10

How do you think they are going to 'end austerity'? How will this be financed? You can't just suddenly invest more in infrastructure etc to create more jobs if there is no.money.

If it is going to be financed by stopping trident, then we will lose US support - not really a good idea....

Labour are going to increase tax for higher payers, mansion tax etc in order to fund their investments.

I live in Yorkshire and we really don't get the support for SNP. They don't make sense to me, but as they seem to be so popular, please can someone actually why?

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SirChenjin · 04/04/2015 11:42

One other poster blowing - not posters plural, and no-one is picking on you. It's OK to miss posts that explain earlier errors - we all do it from time to time.

Delighted that Nicola plans to review the voting system - we need all voters to be represented if she wants to carry on telling the rest of the UK what Scotland will and won't accept, even if she doesn't agree with them..

livingzuid · 04/04/2015 11:45

What anti Scots rhetoric Confused compared to some of the other threads I've seen this one is refreshingly congenial regardless of who is voting for who.

Scots I greatly enjoyed the image of a dog standing on the podium with a red rosette on Grin who knows, could actually do a better job than the majority of the useless lot that sit both in Holyrood and Westminster!

I do quite like NS as politicians go but I can't agree with her politics. I also admire the SNP for at least shaking up things so throughly across the UK although again I couldn't vote for them (lifelong Green but not sure what to do this time round). I hate that cycle of tory then labour then tory. The whole thing needs change.

ADishBestEatenCold · 04/04/2015 11:49

I will be voting SNP.

Behooven · 04/04/2015 12:03

scots unelected group of people, who do you mean?

tilliebob · 04/04/2015 12:06

Just had two SNP canvassers at the door to ask me 2 questions. I was polite, listened to what they had to say and even took a postcard, ignoring what my brain was screaming at me. I must have finally grown up Shock

SirChenjin · 04/04/2015 12:07

Completely agree that the House of Lords should be scrapped - but wouldn't want it to be replaced by ex politicians. It would need to be fully neutral imo, with a mix of people from a range of backgrounds, experience talents who are voted in at the same time as the House of Commons.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/04/2015 12:44

It's a disgrace we're ruled by an unelected group of people

Huh??? Confused What on earth does that mean???

ScotsWhaHae · 04/04/2015 12:51

The people sitting in the house of lords are not elected by the people of this country.

blowinahoolie · 04/04/2015 13:10

Not sure why these people are getting paid £300 per day to turn up to a building to snore or daze into space, when there are people who are struggling to feed their families all over the UK (not just Scotland). There's just a really awful injustice in this.

katie2bumps · 04/04/2015 13:26

Yes - Scottish and SNP voter. Progressive left views that focus on lifting children and families from poverty and a move towards social justice. Austerity measures don't work - supporting a population to thrive through investment and fairer taxation does.

Also, as someone who lives v close to our lovely nuclear submarines, I would be glad to see them gone. Bairns, not bombs!

chocoluvva · 04/04/2015 13:35

The green party and SNP have some policies in common - scrapping trident, free HE, promotion of renewables, votes for 16 and 17 year olds. Greens also in favour of Scottish independence (unfortunately)

If you want to protest vote I'd ask you to consider the green party. They are the least like any of the other parties; their membership vote for their policies and NB was the only one who mentioned climate change during the debate!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/04/2015 13:43

The people sitting in the house of lords are not elected by the people of this country

I take your point, but they don't exactly "rule" us in any meaningful way, do they - at least not on a day to day basis. They've not even been able to veto most legislation since 1911

That said, and FWIW, I'd also like them to be elected if we must have them at all ...

GirlsWhoWearGlasses · 04/04/2015 13:44

I'm Scottish and I'm voting Labour.

They have the most substantial & realistic policies to reduce poverty and build a fairer society.

The SNP record in Government is pretty poor - slashing college places, changing the way funding is allocated which has channelled money away from poorer communities, hanging on to a massive underspend, presumably to make things seem more desperate in the run up to the Referendum.

I don't understand this idea that there's a single Scottish voice and I would prefer to elect a left of centre government, rather than prop up the Tories.

trixymalixy · 04/04/2015 13:51

The free higher education policy just exposes the utter hypocrisy of the SNP. In what way is it socially progressive to cut 140,000 college places to fund free university places? Arguably the money would be better spent on vocational college courses which would be more likely to lift people out of poverty than funding middle class kids who would have gone to university anyway.

I am absolutely in favour of free education, but not at the expense of college places.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/04/2015 13:54

would prefer to elect a left of centre government, rather than prop up the Tories.

You may wish to look at this diagram from PoliticalCompass.... left if centre is not Labour...

To ask if you are voting SNP?
StillLostAtTheStation · 04/04/2015 13:55

Trixy absolutely agree. My son benefited from it but it's still wrong that no-one apart from English students had to pay.

StillLostAtTheStation · 04/04/2015 13:58

ItsAllGoingToBeFine brilliant! Thank you.

I don't need another reason not to vote SNP but their being in the same venn sector as Sinn Fein and the Scottish Socialist Party certainly gives me one if I did.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/04/2015 14:14

I don't need another reason not to vote SNP but their being in the same venn sector as Sinn Fein and the Scottish Socialist Party certainly gives me one if I did.

No worries Grin Labour being in the same sector as the BNP, Tories, and UKIP certainly gives me the warm fuzzies...

ScotsWhaHae · 04/04/2015 14:19

So which way are you non snp voters voting?

Fwiw I agree that slashing college places is shocking. Don't make the mistake of thinking as an SNP voter (first time) and member I'm going to blindly defend everything they've done.

tilliebob · 04/04/2015 14:28

To be honest, I haven't a clue yet. I'm between voting for who has the best policies in my opinion and what is best as a tactical vote. My area was always labour and lately has been SNP as a lot of ex mining communities seem to be now.

trixymalixy · 04/04/2015 14:37

In all those online things I come out as Green. I cannot vote for a party that supports independence however, so I think I'll end up as a tactical labour voter despite disliking Jim Murphy.

ScotsWhaHae · 04/04/2015 14:52

There were Scottish Greens opposed to independence and they were free to do so which is quite unique for a party. The greens were very open and whilst the majority of the party were pro indy (which is why they were so involved with the Yes campaign) some weren't. It's quite refreshing to hear.

I know 3 Labour councillors who were voting yes on the quiet and avoiding as much better together campaigning as possible. Making the whole Labour party tow the party line like that is what's damaged them so much.

SantanaLopez · 04/04/2015 14:54

I'm also a tactical Labour I think.

chocoluvva · 04/04/2015 15:19

I'm going to vote green for the first time ever despite its support for Scottish independence.

DH reckons that it's dangerous to scrap trident - he thinks nuclear weapons have saved lives and even if there were multi-lateral disarmament the technology to make them will always be there. He cited the Cuban missile crisis as an example of nuclear missiles almost being used (after WW2). I'm confused.

livingzuid · 04/04/2015 15:25

I'm not voting for any party which thinks an EU referendum or an exit is a good idea. My options are therefore pretty limited Sad I can't keep up with the messaging around it but I think it will be a Labour vote for me as so far they have avoided a full commitment to the whole thing.

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