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if you are the sort of person who argues a tomato is a fruit not a vegetable

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ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:12

What you think a vegetable is?

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ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:24

'a plant or part of a plant used as food,' could include fruit

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PHANTOMnamechanger · 30/03/2015 17:24

Hassled, by that definition then ALL fruits are also vegetables, like a sub set. Noooo!

ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:25

Hassled so it includes fruit? So a tomato can be a vegetable then?

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austenozzy · 30/03/2015 17:26

I thought fruit was anything that developed from a flower, eg tomato, strawberry, courgette, grape etc. more than about seeds being inside or out. As others say, veg is a wider grouping of foodstuffs.

ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:28

austenozzy That doesn't mean a vegetable can't be a fruit though does it?

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ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:28

That is a correct botanical definition by the way though.

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KingJoffreyFanciesDarylDixon · 30/03/2015 17:30

Tomatoes are cunts.

Best to avoid them entirely.

austenozzy · 30/03/2015 17:31

That's right Ethel. They're not mutually exclusive, so it's not an either/or thing. I think...

ShouldIworryornothelp · 30/03/2015 17:32

Anything with seeds in or on it is a fruit

ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:33

Don't even get me started on the fuckers who argue mushrooms are plants....

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Stratter5 · 30/03/2015 17:33

Stratter the point is there is no point of differentiation

That makes me inordinately happy, ethel

austenozzy · 30/03/2015 17:33

And I agree with joffrey too, they give me rotten stomach acid!

limitedperiodonly · 30/03/2015 17:34

Apparently bananas are berries.

BabyGanoush · 30/03/2015 17:36

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit

Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad

ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:37

ShouldIWorry Sweetcorn has seeds on it. It is a fruit. So is rice. Rarely has anyone argued with me which I have referred to them as grains (or veg in the case of sweetcorn) though.

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Nolim · 30/03/2015 17:37

Wikipedia explains it better:

"Botanically, a tomato is a fruit: the ovary, together with its seeds, of a flowering plant. However, the tomato has a much lower sugar content than other edible fruits, and is therefore not as sweet. Typically served as part of a salad or main course of a meal, rather than at dessert, it is considered a vegetable for most culinary uses. One exception is that tomatoes are treated as a fruit in home canning practices: they are acidic enough to process in a water bath rather than a pressure cooker as vegetables require. Tomatoes are not the only food source with this ambiguity: green beans, eggplants, cucumbers, and squashes of all kinds (such as zucchini and pumpkins) are all botanically fruits, yet cooked as vegetables."

ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:38

which=when

BabyGanoush It is knowledge but not understanding.

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ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:39

Nolim that wikipedia entry suggests that a vegetable that is a fruit is 'ambiguous'. No it isn't. It is just a sodding tomato.

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ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:41

limitedperiod a tomato is a berry too.

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PHANTOMnamechanger · 30/03/2015 17:41

where are legumes in all of this ?

BTW I once heard a very Hyacynth Bucket type call them leg-oo-may, sort of rhyming with crudite LOL

FuzzyWizard · 30/03/2015 17:41

A tomato is a fruit, I wouldn't make a big fuss about it if someone were to call it a vegetable though and might call it a vegetable in certain contexts. Likewise courgette, aubergine, cucumber etc. Just like I might call a strawberry or raspberry a berry even though I know they technically aren't and I probably wouldn't call a banana a berry even though I know they technically are as people would look at me like this. Hmm

The quote a PP mentioned about knowledge and wisdom is a good one. Knowing what is or isn't a fruit, berry, vegetable etc is knowledge, it may be useful in some contexts. mst of the time it really doesn't matter though.

drudgetrudy · 30/03/2015 17:42

If it develops from the flower and has seeds its a fruit. A vegetable is any other pert of a plant.

LineRunner · 30/03/2015 17:47

Are bananas bigger cunts than tomatoes? Yes.

ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:48

A vegetable is any other pert of a plant.

You see there, you are making the incorrect assumption that there is anything remotely scientific about the definition of a vegetable.

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ethelb · 30/03/2015 17:49

TBF I don't recognise bananas as an edible food stuff.

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