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To think parents should take responsibility if children chase sheep on country walk?

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Firethorn · 26/03/2015 18:13

Recently went for a country walk (public right of way across farmland) with SIL, my 2 nieces, and another couple and their 3 kids. Crossing a sheep-field, the 5 kids started chasing sheep, trying to 'round them up' in a flock like they'd seen sheepdogs do on TV. I asked SIL if we should stop them, she said no they always do this it's not doing any harm. Other couple agreed and said the kids are having fun, let them play with the sheep. I was a bit concerned as one child was carrying a stick and waving it around, but respected the parents' decision.
Shortly afterwards an irate farmer marched towards us shouting and swearing! She was really aggressive and had a snarling dog (off the lead), dog was circling us but not approaching. For about 5 minutes mins she yelled and swore at the kids for chasing her sheep. All 3 parents then turned on their kids and told them off, lying that they'd been telling them to stop but they'd disobeyed! (They hadn't told them to stop at any point). My niece burst into tears and hid behind me and I lost my temper with farmer for swearing at kids, told her to back off and stop shouting, and to get dog under control. The dad of one of other kids then threatened to kick the dog if it came near his kids, and after some more shouting we decided to go back way we'd come. She shouted abuse after us until we were out of sight!

I'm annoyed with other parents for letting their kids chase sheep then lying about trying to stop them! Also with farmer for being so intimidating and rude. SIL says we should just have apologised and carried on walking. AIBU?

OP posts:
Bettercallsaul1 · 28/03/2015 18:54

Room - Let's just say I think it's the garden path we've been led down here, not a country one. grin

Bettercallsaul1 · 28/03/2015 18:55

Grin fail Grin

silveroldie2 · 28/03/2015 18:55

A flock of all male sheep? Yeah, right. Thick as pig shit comes to mind.

tomandizzymum · 28/03/2015 18:56

I think you're are taking all this too much on you. It wasn't you OP, it was the parents. Good for you being in the kids lives to educate them but please realise your SIL is not taking full responsibility by blaming the farmer. I think she's OTT but that's just me.

ADishBestEatenCold · 28/03/2015 19:02

"Farmers have no rights to block or impede public rights of way I thought"

I don't think people are suggesting that the farmers should block off the public right of way, ThatBloodyWoman, simply run a fence up either side of it, meaning that the public can still use the designated path/route, but can't stray off it on either side. IYSWIM.

That's been done on a couple of rights-of-way that I used to love to walk. In one case the fences on either side of it are particularly high, unsightly, and mean the less-than-three foot right of way in between the two fences has become a churned up mess. It covers quite a long way and, while the landowner has preserved the legal right-of-wasy unimpeded, there is no pleasure in walking along it any more!

In fact, it has so spoilt the walk and outlook, I no longer go there ... however I don't blame the landowner at all. For years before erecting his fences, the land that the right-of-way crossed suffered a lot of abuse.

ARoomWithoutAView · 28/03/2015 19:03

Oh, and a flock of all-male sheep? Bollocks!

Roll over and cast myself against the stable wall for whinnying....Haha! Such a great line delivered in passion but not knowing the double entendre.

New acronym - ROCMASWFW.

But seriously a great post SamVinesGirl . Spot on.

ilovesooty · 28/03/2015 19:07

The sister in law is an idiot who's failing to take any responsibility. And that letter is a non apology.
And yes after chopinbabe's contribution to the turtle thread I'd expect tosh about the trauma suffered by the children.
The farmer hasn't done anything wrong.

Thankyoumrspatterson · 28/03/2015 19:08

I think y'all should leave prettyfeet alone tbh

kali110 · 28/03/2015 19:12

Wow. Reading your last post i thought i finally had respect for you and then no you're straight back to being arrogant and blaming someonelse.
It's your sil fault that her daughter is now more scared of dogs!!
The dog was protecting the stock, you were on it's land.
The kids were trespassing when they were frightening the sheep weren't they?? Your sil didnt care that the sheep were afraid did she??
As for the signs, do we really need signs everywhere stating what is really common sense?? Don't chase the animals.....
I dont even live in or near the country and i know that!
I can't stand parents who let their kids chase animals, including birds and pigeons! No respect.
I really hope the farmer takes action.
You're not sorry you just want the farmer to know that you lot weren't in the wrong.

AuntieDee · 28/03/2015 19:15

I see you still can't accept that the farmer had a point and him hurting your feelings is really of no consequence in the grand scheme of things.

christycreme · 28/03/2015 19:15

Yes, Thankyoumrspatterson Prettyfeet should have been left alone and not made a scapegoat or used as an instrument for such vitriol.

AuntieDee · 28/03/2015 19:15

And thank goodness your family won't mbe going there again! Just stick to the city parks in future...

maninawomansworld · 28/03/2015 19:19

The kids and parents were COMPLETELY In the wrong.

I farm sheep (among other things) and if I saw dogs behaving like this then the owners would have the time it takes me to load a rifle to get them under control or they would be former dog owners very quickly.
Quite why someone thinks that it's okay to let children do this is beyond me.

Also, a public footpath as standard is 1.5 meters wide so I'd be willing to bet that the children were technically trespassing as they chased the sheep.
In fact, they were chasing sheep which can cause a
To of stress and can cause ewes to abort if they are pregnant so it would probably be classed as AGGRAVATED TRESPASS which is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE.

If I were that farmer I'd have followed you back to the car so I could hand your reg numbers to the police to prosecute the kids parents. I'd also know who to sue for compensation if those ewes aborted and I lost valuable lambs as a result. I think you got off very lightly with an ear bashing.

People like your friends have no place in the countryside and they had better pray they never try the same crap on my land!

Rant over..... Hard day on the farm today.

SauvignonBlanche · 28/03/2015 19:22

Hmm @ the 'letter'.

Chebs · 28/03/2015 19:23

I can't believe I just read through 26 pages of such lame excuses. If this were my son and I were in the parents position, I would be going to the farmer direct to apologise profusely, explain my ignorance and offer to compensate for any lost livestock.

I would feel utterly terrible for allowing my child to take the blame, and equally levels of stupidity for not realising what so many posters have clearly explained over and over, and over!

The fact that you are still defending the fact that you all trespassed, caused potential fatal injury to innocent animals and then had the gall to be furious over being picked up on your behaviour is just jaw on floor worthy.

chopinbabe · 28/03/2015 19:27

Well done for writing the letter and I hope you get a response that you can show to your SIL in the hope that she can understand how overwrought the farmer was and forgive and vice versa.

After all, a child is at the centre of this storm.

Bettercallsaul1 · 28/03/2015 19:38

Was just waiting for your arrival, Chopin - no show without Punch!

hedgehogsdontbite · 28/03/2015 19:39

Pissing myself laughing at the letter of 'apology' you've sent to the farmer, assuming this is real which I don't believe it is

So you've sent written evidence confessing to a crime to the angry victim of that crime. Hilarious. Thick as pig shit just doesn't cover it. :o

KatieKaye · 28/03/2015 19:46

Oh, are you a farmer, Room?
What is the best time for you during lambing season to do a show and tell?

KatieKaye · 28/03/2015 19:47

Raw for always being able to find the time, that's what OP and her idiot SIL should be doing - finding the time to educate themselves to a basic level of general knowledge.

ThankFuckSpringIsHere · 28/03/2015 19:49

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ThankFuckSpringIsHere · 28/03/2015 19:55

Firethorn a word of advice. I wouldn't approach the farmer especially as it's lambing season at the moment. If you approached me with a letter in my current exhausted state you'd leave with it shoved up your arse.

BuzzardBird · 28/03/2015 19:57

You could just show SIL this thread? Grin Haw haw, you're brilliant! Grin

MehsMum · 28/03/2015 19:58

She said there are never any lambs in that field so thinks they are all male sheep (?)

???? indeed. Your SIL grew up in the countryside? Bloody hell. I grew up in a little town and it dawned upon me mighty young that the boy lambs and the excess girl lambs =>roast dinner.

Boy lambs, of course, sans their bollocks from a very tender age...

ARoomWithoutAView · 28/03/2015 20:00

Inside lambing season, then when I can Katiekaye and outside lambing season then again when I can. But never, never.
No I am not a farmer but I support them in a different way.

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