To get really pissed off that a lot of people seem to think it's acceptable to be racist towards Chinese people?

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'They all look the same'

'Sum ting wong?'

'I'll have a number 28 please'

'Oh but they eat dogs and cats and small children, and are therefore scum'

Just a few of the comments I've seen on 'news' articles published by a certain 'newspaper'. I mean, I know Daily Mail readers are not known for their intelligence and tolerance, but AIBU to think that similar comments about other races would not be tolerated, or would at least be regarded as much more serious? Not just referring to the DM morons, it seems to be 'OK' to make ignorant sweeping statements about the Chinese in supposedly more educated circles, too.

The same probably applies to other east Asian races too, but I notice it more with the Chinese.

Anybody ever noticed the racist lyrics in THe Melting Pot song :

Take a pinch of white man
Wrap him up in black skin
Add a touch of blue blood
And a little bitty bit of Red Indian boy

Curly Latin kinkies
Mixed with yellow Chinkees
If you lump it all together
Well, you got a recipe for a get along scene
Oh, what a beautiful dream
If it could only come true, you know, you know

What we need is a great big melting pot
Big enough to take the world and all it's got
And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more
And turn out coffee colored people by the score

Always found it very offensive and always tried to contact radio stations whenever I heard it being played! (One of them utterly clueless as to why it might be insulting/racist) - am (very proudly happily blessed to be) half-Chinese

Vitamints Thanks.

it's not nice a it's not acceptable, but I guess the Welsh, Irish and Scottish also get their share of racism/stereotyping....But hey, no one is targeting or bombing Chinese restaurants/supermarkets.

But hey, no one is targeting or bombing Chinese restaurants/supermarkets

So that makes it OK then?

People might not be bombing Chinese restaurants but they are putting windows out, shitting on the floors, terrorising the staff and murdering the owners. The fact that people think this isn't happening, because racism against Chinese people doesn't exist and racist slurs are colloquiums and racist attacks aren't happening or are just 'kids messing about' is exactly what the OP is talking about.

sing I didn't know that was a real song. I've only heard it on Alan Partridge and I assumed it was made up.

rich finger How many Chinese and Japanese penises have you seen in real life? You definitely don't speak for the entire population.

Twunt average measured penis size of Chinese and Japanese men are amongst the smallest in the world. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just how it is.

Poor dear over investedrich . It's definitely not true in my wide and enjoyable experience. And why on earth come on THIS thread to peddle toss and untruths when the whole point of this thread is to say that it's not ok? (Aimed at fingers too)

You know, there are other hobbies than measuring East Asian penises Have you tried golf?

No it is not OK, but I'm trying to be philosophical about it and it put it into some sort of perspective.

I've already made it clear racism in whatever form is not OK/acceptable. I will call people up on it if I come across it within my circles. But as I said before, I've not come across this in any overt way. But the racism vibes seems to have got worst in recent years. Tolerance was on a high during 2012 and somehow it fell off a cliff after that.

You can stop this racism no more than you can stop humans committing crimes in general. No it is not acceptable, but it will not stop, but hopefully it can be curbed by society's attitudes. I'm not going to send my blood pressure up by getting overly worked up about something I have no control over, and I'm not going to be one of those professionally offended at every acts of racism no matter what the degree is. E.g. comments about penis sizes does not offend me although I can see it can offend others. If I get worked up about things like that it would be exhausting for me and for others, and ultimately I think you can lose respect that way.

Btw I'm not offended by people trying to say nee hiaw to me.
If someone says sum ting Wong. I would just respond with my RP accent and confuse the hell out of them, because it is apparent that for some people the way I look and the way I sound just doesn't compute. But my brother, for example, cannot say rubbish and can only say lubbish or wubbish (he was 4 years older than me when we arrived in England)...his accent is just what he does.

I wouldn't really get that excited with the comment that they all look the same either. I've often commented that I'd hate to lose dd in a crowd in Hong Kong or China or Japan because I would panic as I would not be able to easily spot her amongst the sea of black hair.

I think the 'look the same' comment is ethnocetrism rather than racism per second.

When I was working in Singapore, a colleague came up to me and called me by another white colleague's name. When I corrected him he said 'oh, you Caucasians, you all look alike to me'.

It wasn't malicious or judgmental. Just a statement of fact from his perspective. Lots of ethnic groups, including white ones, have similar features.

So you weren't offended Shakshuka, and didn't take it as racism, unlike some on here. This is what I mean that if you look for racism as an explanation for every negative interaction, it can become a self fulling prophecy.

Basically having a chip on your shoulder.

Actually rich, not only are you pedalling a bizarre point in a thread about racism, but you aren't even factually correct about it.

I believe this is what you are harping on about.

It's okay not to have instant feelings of friendship towards people - it's normal to be wary of someone if you have had bad experiences with other people from the same country (it's not nice, but it's human instinct). However, it's idiotic to say "I don't like Chinese/Polish/Americans" due to a limited number of interactions with them. Most people with half a brain might be a little wary at first, but - most importantly - judge each person as they actually are, not on half baked assumptions.

I lived in China (although not for long) and didn't really enjoy the culture. I didn't like the societal attitude towards animals. I didn't like the rampant lack of hygiene or the spitting. I didn't like the attitude towards women, nor the hypocrisy in the split between rich and poor.

So as a country, I really don't like China. However, it's pointless to judge every single person by those standards. I also met a lot of very lovely people whilst out there.

I lived in a very mixed house at uni in Leicester. Casual racism between friends was all a bit of a laugh, I'd be called a welsh yokal, French guy was frogs legs, and Korean girl ping pong, Cornish guy pasty.

Its difficult where to draw the line, all of these were made in jest and just playing on stereotypical images. Of course if anything is made in a derogatory manor doughnuts not acceptable.

Shashuka You're very right there! When you are new to an ethnic group they all do look the same. It took me a while to be able to differentiate Caucasians from each other. Obviously Caucasians think they all look very different! and it's just other races that look the same. But that's what Asians and black people think too.

I think it's because you grow up looking for certain "markers" to identify people.

In Caucasian people I look for hair colour, eye colour etc and use those to identify individuals. When my dc joined their school everyone had black hair and dark eyes and I was lost! A couple of years later though and I wonder how I found it so difficult, but now I look at bone structure, skin tone, build, height etc to identify individuals.

Exactly newname I didnt mention that it my previous post as I didn't want to too long. But that's precisely it. Funny what you said about eye colous, in my all years in the U.k I've never identified anyone by eye colour! It just wouldn't occur to me.

I never really had that issue, but that is to do with how I see faces, a lot of people use one or two features to recognise the whole, but I have to examine quite carefully each feature and put them all together with effort, unless it is someone I have known for decades I am face blind unless concentrating directly on the face I have to recognise. It's an interesting aspect of psychology.

Then I forget their name.