To buy my child an e cigarette

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Okay I just know two of my teenagers smoke. Haven't found evidence but insider knowledge (ds telling me ) and both have a ready supply of gum and mint.

Anyway I was thinking if I make them go cold turkey it won't work but if I can get them an e cig or nicquitine gum then maybe we could quit like adult smokers with less chance of failing. Anyway Aibu

Joy you really can't assume that just because you are still in the stage where you can easily slip back onto the fags that all vapers are.

I don't know any long term vapers who are still addicted to nicotine or would easily go back to smoking. Sounds like vaping may not be right for you.

Looks like you've already gone to talk to them about it but on the off chance that you haven't and you're open to an alternative perspective. Don't do it. Leave them alone, most kids smoke for a time during their childhood, they are clearly covering their tracks and it doesn't sound like they are doing anything else. Chances are they will give up by themselves but don't make them vape. A) there is still limited evidence about the effects of them, B) being told by your mum to give up smoking is likely to make them do the opposite, C) they will only stop when they want to.

U2 ive not had a fag for 14 months. BUT if I was trapped on a desert island with no vapour and twenty pack they would be opened and used. As I still be a smoker. I just substitute it with something else.

You are a non smoker when you go cold turkey - and stick to it.

But if you want to say you don't smoke - what ever floats your boat!

You can get the liquids that contain zero nicotine.

I posted a follow up thread here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2337953-To-think-I-should-have-known-World-War-3-would-have-broken-out

If I don't use nicotine then i'm not still addicted.

I only ever use it in a certain juice which needs a low dose of nicotine to get a throat hit.

So therefore, I have gone cold turkey. I don't need nicotine and being addicted to nicotine does not mean you are a smoker.

If I trapped on as Island I would just go without both.

So again, your experience is not everyones.

Why are people who vape so defensive? It's a fact that people who don't smoke don't vape either because there's no need to. Vaping is a replacement for smoking. Why do you care what other people think of it?

Sure, it is a replacement. But I am still not smoking.

It's not being defensive, it's just a fact. I am not a smoker. PP claimed that those who vape are still addicted to nicotine and can easily slip back to cigarettes. That isn't true for many people. It's not defensive to point out when someone is wrong is it?

I would try giving an almighty bollocking and stopping the pocket money first.

I don't know much - or anything really - about vaping. I have a friend who does it. She thought she'd lost her vape and really panicked. Then she was sad as she realised that she was hooked to that instead.

I think it is true that some people who vape are still addicated to nicotine. If they're not... why are they vaping at all? It's a fair question and some posters are defensive about it when they really don't need to be. Kudos to anybody who stops handing over fistfuls of cash to the Government in the form of tobacco tax.

Polter... Well the risks of vaping are unknown, aren't they? Just like the risks of cigarettes were unknown. On the plus side, vaping doesn't affect others in the way that smoking does so other peoples' opinions really shouldn't matter to you or anybody else who vapes. I don't see why there is a need to challenge it at all - your body, your choice.

I vape, it's more pleasant than smoking which tastes awful as well as being an addiction. I'd rather be addicted to vaping than smoking, where I can gradually remove the nicotine until all I have left is the flavour and action. It also costs a lot less, after initial outlay for a decent vape kit.

I use one that has variable voltage, and allows you to use it while it charges. Kit was thirty pounds for everything, including two replaceable filters. Two kits will last me for up to a year before the batteries conk out and are less effective. Filters I replace maybe every 4-6 weeks.

Last time I gave up smoking, I gained a lot of weight because I replaced the hand to mouth action with food. This time I'm losing while quitting because I have my vaping to distract that annoying little voice that wants a cigarette.

Polter... but do people who don't smoke, vape? I don't think they do, it would be alien to them, surely? It's a substitute for smoking and possibly less of a risk than cigarettes but it's still a smoking-substitute, if that even matters though.

I used to smoke and was so, so lucky to be able to quit, it's a vile addiction and horrendous to overcome.

I vaped because I once addicted to smoking.

I continue to vape because it is so enjoyable. I love the flavours and it also stops me eating sweet things.

I am no longer addicted to nicotine but I enjoy it too much to want to give it up.

My only gripe was with the poster who claimed that vapers were still addicts who are close to smoking ciggies again. That just isn't true with any of the long term vapers I know.

My mum isn't a smoker but will often vape mine when she is here because she likes the taste.

other peoples' opinions really shouldn't matter to you or anybody else who vapes. I don't see why there is a need to challenge it at all

Don't most people challenge things that aren't true?

Of course it doesn't matter to me a great deal. I am not going to lose sleep over it, but if someone tells me I am still addicted to nicotine and can easily slip back into smoking when it isn't true why would I not challenge that?

That sounds weird to me, Polter but not doubting you. It costs money to vape and quite a lot, doesn't it? To vape when you've never smoked and don't have the habit seems odd but, each to their own.

I've had to get used to being referred to as an ex-smoker rather than a non-smoker. I will never be a non-smoker even though I'll never smoke again.

It doesn't cost that much really.

My battery cost £30. That will last me for years.

The atomisers are about £10 for five which lasts around 5 months.

A 30ml bottle of juice cost £12 but can last weeks. If someone only vapes every now and then that can last them months. I average my cost out at £14 a month but I am a pretty heavy vaper and buy new juices to play with often.

My husband who is still addicted to nicotine spends £12 a week on juice, so more than me.

I class myself as an ex smoker.

A hell of a lot cheaper than smoking, U2. As I said, I don't know much about it. I might have tried it myself if they'd been around when I was quitting (it was just patches, tabs and gum ten years ago).

Indeed, Polter. I never said I needed to understand it and I have no interest in it really, it was a fleeting ponder, so I'll leave you to defend it rather than carry on hijacking OP's thread.

Oh... and :)

Yes I know people who never smoked but have started vaping. I think they are mugs. Why the hell would you knowingly go down the path of taking a ferociously addictive drug when your an adult- just because you like the taste the nicotine companies must be laughing all the way to the bank. If you just like the taste by a bloody lolly!

And to the posters that vape andvwould never go back to fags .... What even if the vapours banned? If your so sure of that why don't you just give up now ?

And vaping does normalise smoking. I have to only use mine when dd is not around as she is obsessed with it and if she can get hold of it- it goes straight in her mouth and she pretends to smoke it.

I don't know why people that vape get all evangelical about it and pretend it a knee phenomenon. It's not. We're ptetending it's a cig.