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To buy my child an e cigarette

103 replies

WomenVsbarbie · 22/03/2015 14:45

Okay I just know two of my teenagers smoke. Haven't found evidence but insider knowledge (ds telling me Wink ) and both have a ready supply of gum and mint.

Anyway I was thinking if I make them go cold turkey it won't work but if I can get them an e cig or nicquitine gum then maybe we could quit like adult smokers with less chance of failing. Anyway Aibu

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DarthVadersTailor · 22/03/2015 15:56

Personally I don't think it's a good idea. They are likely to be social smokers and not hardcore nicotine addicts so quitting shouldn't be an issue, giving them an e-cig though might get them more used to a nicotine intake as well as being one that's harder to measure. I also happen to think that as they're marketed as being 'healthier' they'd be likely to use them more than smoking cigarettes, personally I think that simply warning them of the dangers of smoking and possibly suggesting talking to a quit smoking team is the best way to go as opposed to supplying them with ANY form of nicotine.

WomenVsbarbie · 22/03/2015 16:07

It's 7 quid for a pack of 20 ? So by that logic she could be smoking 20 a week or about 3/4 a day.

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Theimpossiblegirl · 22/03/2015 16:13

I'd cut the money too. E cigarettes may contain more chemicals than a social teen smoker may be getting through cigarettes. I know that when I smoked, nicotine patches would have been a step up in terms of addiction, rather than a weaning tool.

Sallystyle · 22/03/2015 16:15

Not at all likely that e-cigs carry more chemicals than cigarettes.

Sallystyle · 22/03/2015 16:16

Sorry.. I read your post wrong. I see what you meant now :)

SunshineAndShadows · 22/03/2015 16:17

They're likely to be social smokers driven by peer pressure and access to plenty of cash so vaping is unlikely to motivate them to stop because they're probably not properly addicted and are smoking for social reasons. What you need to do is speak to your ex-p and formulate a plan to restrict cash, have a stern discussion with them and remind them that smoking makes you stink, gives you terrible teeth and makes you look haggard.

WorraLiberty · 22/03/2015 16:18

Fuck me

My 15yr old gets £7.50 per week! Grin

Branleuse · 22/03/2015 16:19

just stop their pocket money. Way too much

TheOddity · 22/03/2015 16:22

It's early enough in to just get them to stop it by stinging the allowance instead of basically condoning e cigarettes. No 'known' health risks is not the same as 'no health risks'.

defineme · 22/03/2015 16:27

That is a lot of pocket money. Perhaps pay for their phone and stop the rest until you know they can manage it better.
tbh I was a social smoker at that age and probably was for another 10 years, but I didn't think it was cool anymore.

WomenVsbarbie · 22/03/2015 16:29

They get a lot of money but they have to pay for everything from that. Clothes, shoes, phone and friends. I think it would be more expensive if we had to keep giving them money.

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Whippet81 · 22/03/2015 16:32

I wouldn't be giving them money that they could buy cigarettes with. I'm an ex smoker and firmly believe that if someone wants to spend their hard earned dosh on cigs then that's up to them. I wouldn't be handing over mine for it to be burned though.

My teenage SIL smokes - I won't 'lend' (you never get it back) her money anymore - I will buy her a takeaway, pay for her to get into cinema etc but I don't hand over cash.

WorraLiberty · 22/03/2015 16:32

Just buy them clothes when they need it and top up PAYG credit.

They've proved they can't be trusted with all this money at their age

Anyway, they'll be getting their National Insurance numbers soon and what'll be the point of them looking for a part time job?

I don't see where they'll find the incentive since they're already being paid a wage for doing nothing.

WomenVsbarbie · 22/03/2015 16:42

Yes I do think things will need to change since they can not be responsible managing their entire finances

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ragged · 22/03/2015 16:48

You would deduct the equivalent cost of real cigs for the e-cigs, right? So they don't end up with more money in their budget for water-pipe smoking etc? I'm told that's water pipe smoking is big social thing for Youf of Today that is driving new smokers to start.

I think I'd want to talk thru with a GP about the pros & cons. Most smoking experts on balance see vaping as a useful step towards quitting, but you might just be freeing up more money in their budget for them to spend unwisely.

Do you buy them no clothes at all?
I'm thinking my 15yo gets £15/month for the optionals, but he wants very little clothes so we can just pay for the little he needs, and phone also on us. Your DD+DSS are getting more than double that after phone/enforced savings.

sanfairyanne · 22/03/2015 16:54

isnt there talk of banning them for under 18s?

all the ones i see look like pipes/cigarettes not boxes. regulation is still very lax. long term side effects not yet known. fine for adults but i wouldnt buy it for my kids, no

lunar1 · 22/03/2015 17:01

Bloody hell 15!! Stop giving them money.

Joyfulldeathsquad · 22/03/2015 17:07

I've vaped for 14 months and love it.

BUT. It IS still smoking. Your STILL addicted to nicotine and can easily slip back on the fags if your desperate and no vaper. People that day they are none smokers are fooling them selfs.

Vaping comes with loads of benefits but I genuinly think I would go all out in encourage complete cold turkey. They are only 15 and its not so ingrained.

Branleuse · 22/03/2015 17:10

well they've got enough money to buy their own ecigs if they want to quit, and if they dont, then theyll smoke anyway if theyve got the money for it

sanfairyanne · 22/03/2015 17:12

m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25900542

this is about a proposed ban for under 18s. dont know if it is still on the cards

WomenVsbarbie · 22/03/2015 17:20

Yes money will have to be stopped for dd and dss mum will have to be told

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WomenVsbarbie · 22/03/2015 17:20

Going to bring up now Blush

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Sallystyle · 22/03/2015 17:23

Joy I am not a smoker. I vape and I am not addicted to nicotine. Plenty of people wean themselves off. I have it in certain juices for the throat hit but I have gone a very long time on juices without it without no physical or mental side effects. I am no longer addicted to nicotine.

How can I be a smoker? I am a vaper and I can safely say that nothing would make me go back to ciggies. Ever.

PolterGoose · 22/03/2015 17:24

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meandjulio · 22/03/2015 17:25

To be honest, what did you expect teenagers with an income of £3000 a year and no bills to pay to spend it on? How many clothes do they actually need?