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To want to move my horse again after just three weeks due to this person??

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Miracularity · 19/03/2015 11:13

I moved to a new yard three weeks ago. It's very small, there's only me and a couple of other liveries. The yard owner is lovely and friendly and we get on well. One of the other liveries however is a NIGHTMARE. When I arrived she introduced herself literally in the first two minutes with "Hi, I'm X. I'm down here a lot, I'm lucky as I don't have to work. OUTSIDE the home." i.e. I'm no less important than those who do work. She has grown-up children. She seemed very nice and friendly.

But she has begun interfering in an unprecedented way. Constantly telling me what I need to do/get for my horse, nagging me about the farrier, the vet, telling me I can borrow her stuff then watching me like a hawk when I'm using it (yard tools and lack of space means mine can't be accommodated yet.) Every time I make a decision about my horse (in/out, which weight rug, how much water, etc. etc. she will question criticise it which leaves me feeling constantly undermined and unsure. I've owned horses for over 20 years and I damn well know what I'm doing but she treats me as though I just bought my first one last week.

At first I appreciated her help as you do in a new place, but now it's starting to be completely overwhelming. She comes across as very passive aggressive. She seems generous with her things but she's also very quick to snatch it back iyswim?! For example, if I ask to borrow, say, her broom she will say "No because I'm going to use it." In a very determined tone. If it were me I'd probably say "Oh, sorry, I'm about to use it - do you mind waiting a couple of minutes?" It's like she's trying to exert control.

She's a member of a horse awareness group and boy, don't we know it! She has not stopped pestering me to have rugs/tack/grooming kits all marked. Fwiw I have NEVER seen this kind of marking done before. But she doesn't ask and leave it there - she tells. She has also announced that I am not allowed to ride out without a fluorescent tabard. Clearly I do if there's a reason, but if it's bright and sunny I don't always. She told me "It's MY yard and safety starts here." It's not her yard..... She also dictated that I wasn't allowed to write on my hands because she's Jewish and it upsets her (concentration camp link I had NO idea about).

She's basically very bossy and controlling and it's driving me insane. I kept my horse in today because he's been a pain to catch the last couple of days and I've barely seen him as a consequence. So he's in to be cuddled and groomed and generally spoiled fed treats. He's fine to be in, it doesn't matter a jot, he's been in for weeks before with laminitis. But oh no, there were about twenty pointed remarks this morning and constant suggestions of "Have you thought about that small field? Or that small paddock? Or have you asked..." I'd already said why he was in. She made it abundantly clear that she disagreed with my decision. To the point where she was quite sulky. She managed to catch him last night after her horse was brought in (they're out together) and she texted me a photo of her and my horse then rang me and announced that he needs to be approached from the right hand side because that works to catch him. FFS! He's my horse! I know damn well how to catch him and if he's a mood then you cannot get near him. She struck lucky.

I'm now dreading going down to the yard because it feels like I can't do anything unless she's approved it because otherwise I'm just tense waiting for criticism! Can someone PLEASE advise me? WWYD in this situation?? I am seriously considering moving but I don't want to. Help!

Does anyone recognise this sort of character??

OP posts:
bimandbam · 19/03/2015 20:58

I like the carrot stick botherers the best. Who think that watching a few dvds and commenting on a few forums for the nh mob makes them good horsewomen.

Shake a carrot one more time in my direction or at my lami prone pony and I will show you exactly how your fecking stick works going sideways up your arse.

Fuckers.

honeyroar · 19/03/2015 21:17

I have my own yard and used to do livery, but stopped because there are just too many mutters in the horse world!

I liked the write Fuck off on your hands and wave suggestion. Alternatively just ask her if she is the official yard bore/know it all.

Seriously, the best way to deal with ones like that are to say "thanks for your opinion but I'm quite happy with how I do things" and nothing else as often as you need to. If she gets no reaction she will surely give up after a while.

Good luck!

EvilTendency1 · 19/03/2015 22:13

Carrotstick botherers

Grin

We have one on my yard who proudly declares herself and her horse as as 'metal free' and she is quick to give her opinions on why it's best to be bitless and treeless and have no metal near them, it went down like a lead balloon when I pointed out her horse had shoes. Hmm

Miracularity · 19/03/2015 22:51

Metal free?! ?? with laughter!

Thanks guys, you have really cheered me up Smile

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Pixel · 19/03/2015 22:54

We had one who wore a sweatshirt with "meat is murder" written across the front. All her horse's tack and her riding boots were leather though, not sure where she thought that came from.

Miracularity · 20/03/2015 11:04

Update!

This morning was worse than bad. She arrived while I was there and the first thing she said was "I was worried about your horse, it was COLD out there." Referring to the hour he spent in a small paddock with no rug. Horse is hardy, unclipped and a native breed. He was absolutely fine. The yard manager was also there when I turned him out and she agreed no rug was fine. Then she said "Was he cold when you brought him in?" I said no.

The next thing - and I promise I am not making this up - is that her horse has apparently starred in a short film to be released at some festival or other in the summer. So she waxed lyrical about his 'debut' and talked about how many hundreds of tickets she's going to need because apparently the entire village is desperate to come, along with his vet, farrier, back specialist - you name it, they've saved the date as a top priority in their year Hmm Then the next passive aggressive thing: "I could fill a list of 40 people before I even think of you." ?!? Nice.

Silence for a bit, then "Oh you know your new feed bucket? It's so small (pony sized) that it doesn't have any weight when I drop it over the door to feed him in the morning. This morning I went in and picked up the feed but you might want to get a bigger one." I fucking don't. It's BRAND new. I replied "Oh, just leave it then. I'll feed him when I come down."
"Oh no, we can't do that. It's not fair. Not in the morning." Well if it's too much hassle to pull a bolt back in the morning you stupid woman then what choice do I have??

Then a new person who's joining the yard in a few weeks arrived to have a look around. And in front of this person, mid-conversation, YN says "Oh, Miracularity, did you pay the feed supplier yet?" In an accusatory way. I said yes, but I was absolutely flabbergasted at her rudeness. The feed was delivered a couple of days ago, the invoice was left at the yard for me and I paid it..... The way she asked you would have thought they'd been chasing payment for months! And what it has to do with her anyway....? And again in front of this person she says "You left the lid off the feed bin last night. It'll attract rats." Now it was my DD (8) who had done that by mistake. And secondly, there is no way that rats could get at the feed unless they chewed through the bottom of the feed bin - which is going to happen regardless of whether the bloody lid is on or not. Arghhhhhh!!!!!

She is literally driving me mad. I've tried to advice on here and she just gets more rude :( I asked the new livery for her number while we were standing together and YN immediately whips out her phone and says "You know what? I can text you Miracularity's number." So I quickly stepped in and said "No, it's fine, I can drop call you." And did so. But YN looked VERY put out Grin

Seriously - I need some more advice please!

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SunnyBaudelaire · 20/03/2015 11:11

this one really needs putting in her place.
Sounds like it might be worth having serious words.

TwartFaceBeetj · 20/03/2015 11:14

Bitch Not a YN Just a plain old bitch. I think a word with the owner, Or if you are feeling brave enough, ask her out right why she feels the need to be rude to you?

SunnyBaudelaire · 20/03/2015 11:16

yes just ask her 'are you the yard manager now or what?' in an assertive voice and look at her directly in the eye until she backs down.

honeyroar · 20/03/2015 11:18

You really are just going to have to summon your strength and tell her to butt out. Say something like "you are driving me mad with your constant pecking. Would you have some manners and mind your own business!" I would mention it to the yard owner too, tell them that it is ruining what could be a lovely yard.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 20/03/2015 11:46

I don't have a horse but I have met people like this YN in real life so I think you do need to have words with her and the yard owner about her conduct. It's very unprofessional and unnecessary and rude.

You should tell the Yard Owner that you're seriously considering moving if they don't have a word with YN and tell her to mind her own business.

Can the Yard Owner put YN on notice? By that I mean can they give her a warning that if she doesn't shut up and stop interfering in other yard users business that she will have to find other accommodation for "Black Beauty - soon to appear in a short movie near you" her horse(s) ???

bimandbam · 20/03/2015 12:06

Buy a crop. Every time she opens her mouth and some shite pours out twat her up the back of the legs. Tell her you will do this if she carries on. Every single time..

On a serious note you need to go to the yard owner and complain. Tell owner you love the yard but find the YN too much. Tell her unless she gets her to butt out you will be leaving.

I usually find issues.like this are best tackled at a yard meeting then no one feels.picked on and its not a he said she said situation. So Yard owner sits everyone down and says she has noticed an atmosphere. And a bit of interfering. No one is allowed to pass any comment on what someone else is doing unless it is a serious health and safety risk such as smoking in the barn. If anyone has any concerns about the welfare of another horse they must approach yard owner not the other livery. Everyone is to concentrate on their own horse and leave everyone elses horses alone. Anyone who can't do this will get 2 warnings then will be asked to leave.

And if yard owner can't do this you are going to have to be really blunt.

I find people.like YN get worse when new liveries come on as it upsets the status quo. We had one and her problem is she just can't mix well. She ignored me for 3 months at one point! 3 fecking months and when I finally got interested enough to ask why she said it was because I hadn't liked a picture on fb. Ffs. This was a 50 odd year old riding instructer btw not some teenage drama llama.

Horses seem to attract oddballs and freaks and the stoopid.

loveareadingthanks · 20/03/2015 12:10

This is horrible but you say a new person is coming in shortly? Can you ask the yard owner to place them to share field etc with bitch-woman and you to have the place the new person was going to have? It's awful to pass the problem on to someone else...but it sounds like it's that or leave. And tell the yard owner why.

loveareadingthanks · 20/03/2015 12:11

Or could you and new person share and bitch woman move fields?

bumbleymummy · 20/03/2015 12:22

She sounds like a nightmare.

I can't offer any different advice to what has been given. Aside from trying to figure out what times she's not there and avoiding her as much as possible I'm not sure what else would work!

goodasitgets · 20/03/2015 12:24

Do you actually have to speak to her? We had one like this and nicknamed her Bonkers. I may have plugged my iPod in my ears and played that song "some people think I'm bonkers" Grin
Tbf I'm rude but I would just walk off and ignore her

Zilverblue · 20/03/2015 12:49

I'd move. Its only going to get worse and your life will be filled with battles against this woman. Your horse won't be settled in yet anyway.

That said, some people, even horsy nutters, are always a bit nervous if a new DIY livery doesn't turn up early morning to feed and turn their horse out and leaves it standing inside their box for hours. Obviously you have reasons to do this, but maybe, just maybe, there is a small excuse for nutter horsy woman there that you can allow her leeway with for a few weeks?

You think that's bad? I met psycho dressage instructor at my yard the other day (when I say dressage instructor, she isn't well known or anything). I didn't know the school was being used for a lesson, but you're allowed to ride in it during lessons anyway and opened the gate to it from horseback (since psycho dressage instructor was making no moves to help).

She then hissed at me (seriously, if snakes could speak) "What the fuck are you doing now?" I ignored her, rode and left. Or at least attempted to. When I tried to get out, she pointed to a pile of poo her pupil's horse had left and said you haven't picked up your poo. Knowing she is a troublemaker, I quietly picked it up and left.

Next day, I got a row from the Yard Owner for not picking up my horse's poo, and a little boring talk about how he had to "police" the yard and make sure that everyone was following the rules.

So I got sworn at, picked up someone else's horse's poo and given a row, all as a result of someone that doesn't even pay to keep their horse at the yard!

TwartFaceBeetj · 20/03/2015 16:09

zilverblue Shock that's awful, are you still on that yard?

bumbleymummy · 20/03/2015 16:56

I could tell you some real crackers about one of the yards I was in! Last time I will ever keep horses at a riding school/livery yard. The politics and bitchiness were awful. Small and private all the way. (Unless, of course, you end up with overbearing people like Miracularity has)

ChickyEgg · 20/03/2015 17:19

At what point are you going to tell her to piss off because this can't continue. She isn't the yard manager, she doesn't own your horse and definitely spell it out the real yard manager that she is a pain in the arse and you will be taking your horse elsewhere if this continues. In the long run, she might drive away other owners so its in their interest to sort this out. Good luck, Op Flowers

quietlyfallingapart · 20/03/2015 18:36

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TwartFaceBeetj · 21/03/2015 16:07

Hope things are ok today and you get to speak to the yard owner

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 21/03/2015 16:23

Miracularity Is it wrong that I am loving this thread!

Buy a crop. Every time she opens her mouth and some shite pours out twat her up the back of the legs. Tell her you will do this if she carries on. Every single time. Grin

Be brave OP and take Bossy Betty down!

BernadetteMatthews · 21/03/2015 16:45

"Please do think of 40 people before me. I honestly couldn't think of anything worse than going there" tinkling laugh.

Then " The buckets new, it was my choice. Thanks for the advice but this isn't my first rodeo. Might be my first fist fight though if you don't mind your own business. Just kidding" cue more tinkling laughter.

She'll not know what to make of you.

Literally laugh in her face every time she speaks to you. I guarantee she'll soon fuck off.

bumbleymummy · 21/03/2015 16:46

Oooh yes - you could try to out-overbear her! :)