No I fucking well won't refund exp

[Leafitout]

Excuse my title thread but I have got the rage. The CSA have informed me that because exp has submitted his tax form that they have now assessed him as paying only £5 a week because the poor bloke doesn't have enough wages to live on! He has evaded giving in his tax return form for years so the CSA set a default payment of £30 until he did submit. He still refused to do so and they took out a liability order. He came to an arrangement with the Baliffs to pay off £1200 at £100 per month which he did. I will add this is all my child has recieved in eight years!
So now that he has lied on his tax return form ( CSA lady said we both know that he doesn't live on fresh air) they have said he has paid over payments to me and I will have to refund him the money! Aibu that this is total bollocks

Refuse

If I am desperate I ask ex for money but he asks for it back.

Pay him back for what he is supposed to be paying in the first place it's an absolute puss take. What sort of person does this to his own child. Sitting back and deliberatetly lying to get out of paying his fair share

It's a default setting at his refusal to co operate and evade them. But now that default is being reduced to £5 because he has made up a low figure of earnings through self employment. Why an earth should I have to refund him the money back

Can't believe this could be correct - a child isn't something you can "overpay" on- it is a living human being who needs to be fed housed and clothed. call and appeal and raise a big stink.

If anyone tries to enforce the order, call the Daily Mail and tell them you have a story for them.

What kind of a human being would do this to his child? But I find myself thinking that a lot on maintenance threads.

This happened to me too. Ex h (self employed) told them that he didn't work but didn't claim benefits as he was 'living off of friends'. They reassessed and decided that the ONE year that he had paid out of 8 years, he had overpaid!!!

I have never been so angry. I told them in no uncertain terms that I would not be paying any money back and that I would see them all in court as it was CSa that had decided amount and they who had taken money from him.

They said ' we may or may not follow this up in the future'.

That was 2 years ago so far.

Absolutely refuse, they are taking from your childs mouth. Feck them. YY at Elizado.

He's paid £1200 for eight years' maintenance? Stuff repayment, he can out the supposed overpayment towards his past liability.

What kind of human being would do this to his child. He clearly doesn't give a shit that he will be letting his child go without, he will be told that he has over payed and will gladly accept the money back. Knowing full well that he gets a refund from not paying for his child.
I will refuse as it seems that this might be common practise to do to women whom dare to seek child maintainance from dead beat dad's. Eliza I hear you

This is ridiculous. Complain. He has paid £30 a week by choice since he refused to cooperate hence that can be considered voluntary excess contributions towards his child's care.
Imagine a genuinely self employed parent paying maintenance based on projected earnings then when tax return is completed they find they have earnt less - would anyone expect the resident parent to pay it back? No, because they paid it willingly. So did your ex.

I really do not want a CSA debt that I owe on my plate it's totally unfair. Can I ask for a refund for the years I have fed and clothed our child. I should hope not because I don't begrudge doing the right thing by our child. How can he possibly sit back and accept this money back

I am really worried and panicking now that they may take back the over payment from my ESA benefits. We hardly have enough to live on as it is. And to top it off he has just come back from the Maldives after a two week holiday urghh

Offer to pay him back a pound a week because that's all you can afford.

I will not pay him back a pound a week at all or anything. It is not down to me to pay child maintainance as he is the NRP who should be paying his way.

Surely at the time you were paid it, it was correct?

Now that it is no longer correct(!!!), it has been altered to reflect that.

This is eight years of him refusing to engage with the CSA and them having to take out liability orders on as it was the only way to make him pay. This was only the first liability order of £1200. They were intending to issue another LO for a few thousand pounds on him when miraculously he has all of a sudden produced his tax return to them. He knows that he was due to be issued with this LO.

If he has lied on his tax form, what can be done about that?

If he didn't supply paperwork when asked then tbh I think that that should just be tough on his part.

Afterall, it's money for his child!!

He was assessed correctly so you shouldn't have to repay. He was assessed at the rate applied to those people who do not cooperate with the CSA because he was not cooperating. If that amount was higher than it would have been had he cooperated then that is his lookout. He chose to put himself in the position that he paid more so he has to live with the consequences of his decision.

I hate the CSA. It is absolute bollocks. Complain loudly and non-stop until they back down. it's shameful

No please don't pay this leech. It's the CSA fault, not yiurs. He has a financial responsibility for his son.

Have you thought about reporting him to the inland revenue for tax fraud.

They will look into his bank, his lifestyle etc

Does he see your son

It seems that because he choose not to co operate with them I am now being penalised for his shit attitude of not wanting to pay for his child. How is that fair? They will give him his money back and that makes him an even more vile human being as he is so spiteful he will be getting off on it.

No he is not allowed to see DS and also has an injunction not allowing him to come near us as he has been violent. But that in no way should excuse him from paying or getting a damn refund