if you think its ok to have a glass of wine a week in pregnancy is it ok to have a cigarette a week?

[Beatrixemerald]

Just asking opinions, not sure what mine is really as was teetotal for years pre pregnancy so didn't need to think about it, but I was a smoker until I found out I was pregnant.
I just wonder if we are as a society far more tolerant of drinking vs smoking and this translates through to pregnancy as nhs advice seems to be to avoid both.

So putting alcohol in your bloodstream is better than nicotine? errr ok then Primal. How on earth does that make sense?

I just can't bear smoking. Ever. Makes perfect sense to me thanks. My point was in answer to the OP:
if you think its ok to have a glass of wine a week in pregnancy is it ok to have a cigarette a week?

I don't ever think it is ok to have a cigarette. Apart from the obvious health reasons, it looks horrible and makes people smell.

But that is "your" view isnt it.

I'd give up the booze before I gave up my fags.

Each to their own.

Im not a piece of "scum" because I like a fag. Im as thinking feeling human being. People that demonise others need to wind their necks in. But there again that's my "view".

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I am pregnant right now. I won't drink, smoke, eat soft cheese, soft eggs, drink tea or coffee or vegetables that have not been scrubbed and organic, rare meat or lamb. I won't touch cats or small children, I won't go in a car. I avoid busy streets and house hold chemicals. But I just can't quit crack.

at nancy

But that is "your" view isnt it.

Yes. The OP said if you think. Not demonising anyone.

I'm "highlighted" now then, which i find a pretty rude thing to do but never mind. I personally say what I do. I never highlight others nor do I name unless they have said something I agree with.

Its called on line etiquette.

You did name me.

It seems to be fairly usual on here to use highlight as there is no quote facility.

To me personally on line a "highlight" means someone is trying to overface another where I will just speak IYSWIM. I will always have strong views but I don't do that. I will always say my piece of course but hopefully never make another poster a skapegoat.

No, we aren't rats and the evidence on nicotine in pregnancy is inconclusive. The evidence on inhaling smoke is, OTOH, pretty conclusive: Inhaling smoke of any kind (fags, BBQ, campfire ...) is not good for you and not good for any child you are carrying. Smoke generally contains large amounts of carbon monoxide and high levels of carcinogens.

I smoked during both of my pregnancies - not because I thought it was OK, just because I couldn't stop. I managed to stop smoking during my second pg but started again after I had DS. I cared deeply about both my PG and consequently felt deeply ashamed. That didn't help and neither did it help when well-meaning people tried to make me feel even worse. Low self-esteem is not conducive to successful quit attempts.

PrettyFeet the highlighting is a MN bug, it's not to do with you or your posts at all

Its an "how dare you, you are so wrong" thing to do. I don't think anyone is wrong and I never try to blind them with my indepth one way knowledge about things either nor do I use passive aggressive humour to get my way.

Don't use it then, its a tool to be used wisely.

Prettyface you named me in your post first, so why are you being so defensive? Bolding is just used to make threads more readable - people do it when they agree too.

If you don't mean bolding then I have no idea what you mean.

I named you in a normal manner. I "spoke" to you I didn't feel the need to make the text "bold"

I've just read the abstract.

"Five groups of fetuses, defined by maternal alcohol consumption patterns, were examined: control (no alcohol); moderate (5 to 10 units/wk either drunk evenly across the week or as a binge, in 2 to 3 days); heavy (20+ units/wk drunk evenly or as a binge). Fetal habituation performance was examined on 3 occasions, separated by 7 days, beginning at 35 weeks of gestation. The number of trials required to habituate on each test session and the difference in performance across test sessions were recorded.
Results

Fetuses exposed to heavy binge drinking required significantly more trials to habituate and exhibited a greater variability in performance across all test sessions than the other groups. Maternal drinking, either heavily but evenly or moderately as a binge, resulted in poorer habituation, and moderate binge drinking resulted in greater variability compared with no, or even, drinking."

So no group whatsoever who drank the recommended limit of 2-3 units a week. So the conclusions drawn by posters here (and the headlines of the programme) are totally bogus. Quel surprise

Im not defensive at all. I say my view and very rarely challenge anothers.

Making it bold makes the whole thing easier to read. Stop taking it personally

Ok then plentyofpubes, are your children "damaged" by it? Or are you very guilt ridden? There are plenty of other things that damage a baby in the womb like intermarriage or stress.

its a rude thing to do period.

God I so want ModerateBingeDrinker as a user name

PrettyFeet bolding people's names is normal on MN, it helps people find replies that are directed at them. Nothing is meant by it

its a rude thing to do period.

Whatevs.

I dont get that at all to be fair, its rude. Ive been on MN for years and find it indicative of someone "highlighting" a view in order to make a point of saying its wrong. But I have said that is just the way I see it.

Bolding names is different and we all know that