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to think they should charge the Syria girls

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adsy · 21/02/2015 08:14

If they are indeed with terrorists in Syria then when a small chink of sense comes back to them and they want to come home, I hope they will be charged.

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sunabroad · 21/02/2015 23:06

Joyfull, how do you know that they've gone to join ISIS?

If they told their parents/teachers they were going to do humanitarian, NO one would have allowed them to go, for the very reason that people will jump to conclusions, as they are doing here, that the ONLY reason anyone can go to Syria is to join ISIS. There is much more going on there then ISIS!

Hillingdon · 21/02/2015 23:07

Cannot believe their parents didn't have a clue as to what was happening. Also for those who say they are kids and dont know what they are doing, would you want them living next door to you, being friends with your own children, travelling on public transport planning god knows what....

If they killed your child would you still have sympathy for them?

Joyfulldeathsquad · 21/02/2015 23:10

limited Resolve/absolve ... It's late, who cares. They are on their way to join the monsters that enjoy beheading and burning people to death. Why do you think they have gone?

TSSDNCOP I don't think they would even get one would they? I wonder who meets them or how they even get to a meeting point? Where would they go next?

Is there any accounts of returnees of the process?

sunabroad · 21/02/2015 23:12

Hillingdon, yes I would have sympathy, because if they have gone to join ISIS, then they have been severely brainwashed. And children who have been brainwashed in whichever manner, get my sympathy.

Farahilda · 21/02/2015 23:13

Indeed there are many things in Syria.

But if the main options: there is no sign that they have any connection to the Opposition Coalition or to the Assad forces. They do appear have two connections to IS.

thenightsky · 21/02/2015 23:16

They should be charged with treason if they come back.

(Too invested in Wolf Hall)

whodrankmycoffee · 21/02/2015 23:17

For all those who have sympathy for them on the basis of grooming. Would you feel the same if they were boys? And if not why not?

Or is they were going off to join some kkk equivalent.

TSSDNCOP · 21/02/2015 23:21

Tareena Shakil returned from ISIS/Syria.

limitedperiodonly · 21/02/2015 23:22

If I were a Muslim leader I would be mobilising. I would want responsible people from the community everywhere helping kids, answering their questions alerting their parents and schools.

I don't think there is an ultimate Muslim leader.

But I'm Catholic and my ultimate leader is Pope Francis. He's come out with quite a few wacky statements lately. Do you think the world's Catholics are going to follow them or are just going to think: 'Perhaps he is in the early stages of Alzheimer's' *.

Why would I think Muslims would do anything else?

  • before anyone kicks off. My dad had Alzheimer's. He said and did some wacky stuff.
duchesse · 21/02/2015 23:24

Any child that leaves a relatively cushy life in the UK to join a band of deranged violent thugs intent on dragging a number of countries back to the 11th century must have been brainwashed.

In fact, scrub that, any person who decides it's a good idea must be naïve in the extreme. Trouble is, once they've been there, there'll be no way of telling the ones who realise they've made a mistake from the ones who just want to return to do bad things. If they ever do come back. And it seems that many don't. I suspect but don't know that more of our citizens have died in Syria and the Middle East than have come back (for whatever reason they decide to return).

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adsy · 21/02/2015 23:25

limited I'm genuinely curious as to your reasons to try to excuse people for horrific behaviour ( and you still haven't found an example of my revengeful posts)

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duchesse · 21/02/2015 23:27

TSSDNCOP, it seems there are a great number of different branches of Islam. A rift happened very early on in the life of Islam (at Mohammed's death in fact) and one branch completely believes the other to be heretics- therefore there is no-one in overall "control" of Islam. It's like the Church of England/Catholic thing, except there is no common ground.

limitedperiodonly · 21/02/2015 23:31

OP, just give it up.

TSSDNCOP · 21/02/2015 23:31

Limited i believe I said "a Muslim leader" not "the Muslim leader".

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adsy · 21/02/2015 23:33

Give what up? You said I was posting calls for revenge etc. which I wasn't. I've asked about 4 times now for you to link to where I have expressed those views and you haven't ( because they are not there ). A decent person would apologise and move on

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limitedperiodonly · 21/02/2015 23:45

TSSDNCOP My parish priest expressed opinions. That didn't mean my parents agreed with them.

Why do you you think Muslims would or should do that either?

If we believe then we have one God and free will.

SuggestmeaUsername · 21/02/2015 23:47

A 15 year old teenager getting drunk on a bottle of cider can be considered a silly mistake. A 15 year old teenager heading to Turkey in order to join ISIS in Syria is something that has required a lot of thought and planning. No 15 year old is that naive that they don't know what ISIS have done and what evil disgusting s**ts they are. I think they have made their bed and now need to lie in it and not welcome back in this country. If they do return, they should be charged for terrorism.

TendonQueen · 21/02/2015 23:56

How do the '15 year olds are children who can't think rationally or control their emotions' folks feel about 16 year olds getting the vote? Are they too much of a hormonal bubbling cauldron to do that?

duchesse · 22/02/2015 00:04

I think that giving 16 year olds the vote is a terrible idea. Teenagers change so much in their views and reasoning capacity in those 2-3 years.

I guess that some parties are banking on gaining the teenagers' votes. Or maybe it's a less cynical attempt to get young people into the habit of voting from an early age.

Pangurban · 22/02/2015 00:15

Oh dear, duchesse. That's a bit unconsidered, isn't it? What about people with dyslexia or those were left behind or unsupported by the educational system? There are many reasons a person can have difficulty with spelling.

What really makes someone lose credibility is taking cheap shots and playing the person rather than the ball.

TSSDNCOP · 22/02/2015 00:23

Well heck Limited I think they owe it to their faith to give it a bloody good shot. Or do you, as a person the community identifies as a leader, go "ah feck it, they won't bloody listen off to ISIS with them".

But please, let's hear your suggestions.

MalibuStacy · 22/02/2015 02:08

Did anybody else read the statement from the parents? I can't help but feel uneasy about the language used:

We understand that you have strong feelings and want to help those you believe are suffering in Syria. You can help from home, you don't have to put yourself in danger.

I really hope that the parents were told to say this.

Weebirdie · 22/02/2015 03:32

Yes, I just heard the statement on the news and to be frank is bloody disgraceful.

Help those suffering in Syria??????

sadcasetoday · 22/02/2015 07:49

Help those YOU BELIEVE are suffering in Syria.

HTH.

SlaggyIsland · 22/02/2015 07:57

Weebirdie why is it disgraceful? Do you not agree that people are suffering in Syria?

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