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to not get married?

166 replies

TheMidnightHour · 03/02/2015 11:08

When I was small someone said to me 'you shouldn't get married until you, really, really want to.' It stuck, and I've gone with that, despite increasing pressure from everyone apart from DP: neither of us want to get married, so we haven't.

However, I'm starting to wonder if I'm not seeing some major benefit? After all, if everyone you know jumps off a bridge, you should at least look around to see if it's on fire before you make a decision.

So: here's the status. We are both 30-ish. Not much in the bank, no real assets (no house/car worth anything/heirlooms/trust fund (I wish)), no debt/mortgage. No pensions (I know, I know). No major illnesses. No visa issues. Have wills. We do own a business together, and have a kid on the way (woo!). Both atheists. No religion on my side of the family; DP's parents are very religious and regularly read us a sermon about Living In Sin, which if anything makes it sound quite attractive!

We already have a 'marriage', effectively, as we're as committed as can be and have weathered a decade of storms. I don't want a wedding (large or small, not even a registry office do, gives me the heebs). DP is anti-officially-tying-the-knot for various reasons.

So can I pootle along like this, or is it like going shark feeding without a cage, as one of my friends recently suggested?

(She didn't elaborate on WHAT exactly is out their to eat us, and actually I quite like sharks, always exciting to see one while diving, although they're so quick to vanish they're hard to spot...)

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OwlinaTree · 03/02/2015 19:18

I'm glad I got married. Saying those vows out loud, to the person I love, with loved ones to witness it was one of the most special moments of my life. It's been better or worse at times, but I know we are in it together.

Not everyone feels that way, and not everyone feels the need for a public declaration. I didn't think getting married would change our relationship, but I do feel it has brought us closer somehow. I think it's the being in it together.

It's a personal thing really.

fancyanotherfez · 03/02/2015 19:29

Why did gay couples want marriage when they had civil partnership? I thought it was because it still didn't afford the same status as marriage, and it wasn't recognised abroad. I agree that civil partnership for heterosexual couples would afford more rights than cohabitation, but I don't understand why you wouldn't then just have a civil marriage? Of course if you don't want to be married, that's not in the least unreasonable, but its not the same as marriage, as has been pointed out on this thread. I don't really know why I got married, I just met someone and it felt right. Doesn't mean you love your partner less, or my relationship is of more or less value emotionally than yours, it just means my relationship is legally recognised and your isn't, and that is the important point.

Chunderella · 03/02/2015 19:32

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noddyholder · 03/02/2015 19:39

Maybe this has to be spelled out in schools so that women get themselves into a position before children where they don't have to get married in order to feel secure?

Crazyzowhat · 03/02/2015 19:40

re forms - I just don't see why I should have to tick single on some forms that's all because I'm not yet I must declare how many dependants I have .

I had this recently when applying for a bank account and I don't think it gives a clear picture to the bank that it is not just me supporting my DC'S financially

vdbfamily · 03/02/2015 20:04

re residential care, as far as I am aware, if someone needs residential care and they are married, the money taken into account is their personal assets and 50% of any joint assets so I am not sure why that would differ if you are just living together. Any money in your name only is not taken into account, unless of course it was mysteriously transferred into your name a week before, in which case they might be interested!!

GnomeDePlume · 03/02/2015 20:38

Lottapianos congratulations on your 10 years together when you get to that point. I am of the opinion that celebrating relationships is a good thing.

Lottapianos · 03/02/2015 22:26

Thank you Gnome, I agree obviously! Smile

cailindana · 04/02/2015 08:17

Worriedmum, have you actually read the thread????
At no point has anyone said cohabiting couples are less committed, in fact post after post after post has said that marriage isn't about commitment - married couples are not necessarily any more committed - it's about the legal protections.

OnceUponATimeAgain · 04/02/2015 09:09

I was more worried about mixing up our CD collection when we moved in together (well we didnt do it until about 3 years in) than getting married (or having children).... I guess that meant by the time we got married I knew it was the right thing to do

MauriceTheCat · 04/02/2015 10:24

I have been married over 20 years, I never changed my name, neither of us wear rings (unlike so of the committed unmarrieds we both work with). I'm Dr Maurice and we don't have linked finances. There were 3 people besides us at the wedding and we didn't tell anyone else for years but this is because this suited us and people understand that.

so why get married? Because as a doctor and a family lawyer we get it... get why is important. Your views on NOK being grey or them not waiting six hrs are WRONG plain and simple. The hospital will get into all sorts of legal trouble, it's a sackable offense in many places.

Just this week I had to exclude a woman from the bedside of a dying man she has lived with for over 35 yr at the request of her own daughter who was classed as the man's NOK. I don't like it but the wishes of the next of kin must be respected above all others where the patient cannot communicate for themselves.

newbiefrugalgal · 04/02/2015 10:28
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LillyEvans · 04/02/2015 10:30

Thanks Chunderella. Smile

I can see the sense in marriage from a practical p.o.v. It does seem like it would make things a lot easier.

OnceUponATimeAgain · 04/02/2015 10:56

My mum married my DSD last year, and sadly he died less than 4 months later - his daughters would have moved him to a home miles away from my mum, excluded her from all decisions regarding care and funeral - we're just so glad they got married

Chunderella · 04/02/2015 11:35

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GnomeDePlume · 04/02/2015 12:41

If you want to have a relationship which is entirely between the two (or three or four!) of you and which is not (and will not be in the future) in any way officially recognised by the outside world then not marrying is the way to go.

If you want a relationship which at some point can be recognised officially by the outside then your choices are marry or spend a lot of time and money with solicitors.

If you marry then the official relationship is very much a one size fits all but it has been tried and tested over time and therefore the loopholes are well known.

If you choose to go down the solicitor route then you will be able to tailor the legal relationship but will always have the caveat that these are normally unilateral agreements meaning that one person can change the terms without communicating with the other partner.

There are limits to what can be agreed through the solicitor route. You would need legal advice to go through what these are.

Be aware that to a significant extent marriage will trump wills etc. This will include historic marriages which have not been legally dissolved.

Get advice, pay your money (or not) and make your choice then live with the consequences.

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