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AIBU to expect parents to keep autistic son safe in supermarket?

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middleagedbread · 02/02/2015 19:49

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2936089/Parents-seven-year-old-autistic-boy-asked-leave-Iceland-not-controlling-son-running-aisles.html

I've checked and can't see this thread started anywhere else. I think that the security guard was within his rights to ask both parents to supervise their son or leave store and I don't see where they were being discriminated against. The £20 'apology' from the store after they complained isn't enough it seems; they want com-pen-say-shun. Cue sadfaced pics in article. I am certain that, should their son have injured himself while not being supervised, these same parents would be featuring in an article about 'unsafe supermarket injured my child'.

Parents of autistic children have enough to cope with without these sort of negative articles.

OP posts:
fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/02/2015 21:44

Hard to tell on here if you don't know a posters background since there are so many trolls that just drop something goady in and run.

AliceinWinterWonderland · 04/02/2015 21:56

Exactly. Most of us don't look back through their previous posts, we simply take the post at face value. Would maybe (if she didn't mean it in a nasty way) have helped if she had come back and explained... or been more clear to begin with. Until then, we can really only take it as it looks.

FightOrFlight · 04/02/2015 22:02

Hard to tell on here if you don't know a posters background since there are so many trolls that just drop something goady in and run.

Agreed, which is why I utilised Advanced Search to check if it was a goady troll!

Most of us don't look back through their previous posts, we simply take the post at face value.

I only do it because I'm a nosy cow to try and clarify situations like this in my own mind. It's a useful tool in that respect.

Blu · 04/02/2015 23:56

I reacted badly to Hatie's comment too - thinking stage 2 and then 3 of Fight of Flight's reactions.

Once I realised that Peter Andre does ads for Iceland.

In which case it was a very good ironic comment.

AliceinWinterWonderland · 05/02/2015 06:45

Shame they didn't come back and clarify. That alone makes me think it was a snotty comment.

Oh well. It's not like it is the first time we have seen stuff like that. Won't be the last.

HatieKopkinsgob · 05/02/2015 07:48

I'm really very sorry I've upset people.
i made lovely MrsD swear, and got my first deletion.
it was aimed as ironic.
And yes it was about Peter advertising Iceland.
yes I have children with autism, three of them, I understand the difference across the spectrum.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 05/02/2015 07:55

Aww just a misunderstanding. It happens. Noone will bear a grudge.

MrsDeVere · 05/02/2015 07:55

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Blu · 05/02/2015 07:56

HattieKopkins, sorry you were misunderstood. I will admit I hit the report button, and then had second thoughts.
At least it shows there are folk on MN ready to protest against perceived jokes against disabled children!
I wonder if Peter A is squirming?

Sorry for doubting you.

HatieKopkinsgob · 05/02/2015 08:14

Spot on Blu, it's heartening to see people will challenge bigots.

Samcro · 05/02/2015 08:14

wtf has this got to do with PA
he didn't do anything,
odd

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 05/02/2015 08:22

It might have been more obvious if KP hadn't had about 2 husbands since him. I blame her Grin

Samcro · 05/02/2015 09:04

just don't get why any one would mention him, what is it slag of people with disabled kids day?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 05/02/2015 09:05

He used to be stepdad to a child with severe disabilities. And advertises Iceland
So the point was that Iceland should have been more tolerant and understanding here :)

Samcro · 05/02/2015 09:06

really, odd
still don't see it

LeftyLoony · 05/02/2015 09:16

They still haven't got back to me about the refusal to help by the way. Don't think they've found their own store yet.

Samcro · 05/02/2015 09:17

maybe they are out looking for it

zzzzz · 05/02/2015 09:17

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Icimoi · 05/02/2015 09:52

Samcro, I see the point re Peter Andre, and I struggle to understand why you don't. The front man for their advert used to have a severely disabled child. It would appear that if he had taken that child into an Iceland store and he had kicked off, Andre might well have been treated in the same way as the family in this report. It demonstrates at the very least a certain irony, and conceivably a degree of hypocrisy on Iceland's part. I don't think that commenting on that fact amounts to slagging off parents of disabled children.

AliceinWinterWonderland · 05/02/2015 10:10

Hatie thank you for coming back and clarifying your comment. It's good to know that you didn't mean it the way it sounded. Yes, I can see the point though, but I suppose individual Iceland stores are not involved in the advertising campaigns so I suppose there is a bit of a gap there.

Samcro · 05/02/2015 10:14

"I wonder if Peter A is squirming?"

that is what I don't get. why would he be? he has done nothing wrong.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 05/02/2015 11:12

Well I assumed they meant squirming with embarrassment at having represented a company who treat a child with a disability badly :)

birobenny · 05/02/2015 12:34

Sorry but the OP is in my view a thinly veiled attempt at having a pop at the parents of a disabled child- with a little bit of window dressing

"parents of autistic children have enough to cope with without this sort of negative articles"

at the end to avoid any accusations of being disablist. The quip about ""Com-en-sayshun" says it all really-

There then follow some well meaning posts from people who agree that children should be supervised by their parents when out and about ( well yes of course who would not) but who don't really see the point behind the post.

I will not click on the link because I hate the DM but would I be right in guessing that it doesn't show the parents in a very good light despite, on the face of it being told from their point of view? Would I be right that there are a load of comments from people describing the child as ""disabled"" (IYSWIM)

I have to question the motivation for starting this thread in the first place.

OP YABU

Blu · 05/02/2015 14:05

Samcro:

I am wondering whether Peter Andre is feeling a little uncomfortable about being the Public Face of Iceland, a shop which is now publically embroiled in a discussion about ejecting a child with autism. I am not saying he has done anything wrong.

Blu · 05/02/2015 14:08

Spot on, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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