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zobey · 27/01/2015 21:43

I started training for a new job and we are in a large group for this. Every time that the trainer is talking the same group of lads sit and talk. It's really off putting and I've tried to block them out but I carnt. A few others in the group have picked up on it too. I stayed behind and in passing mentioned it to the trainer who said he has noticed and will be sorting it tomorrow. Was ibu to say something?

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wishmiplass · 28/01/2015 13:27

Bollocks APedant. Are you really saying you couldn't understand the OP because you found the grammar issue too offputting?

EatShitDerek · 28/01/2015 13:28

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Momagain1 · 28/01/2015 13:35

It does matter in life. But this is not your life, it's Mumsnet. Choosing to be a dick to a stranger says far more about you than your better understanding of grammar does.

RebeccaMumsnet · 28/01/2015 13:40

Erm, enough of the grammar fighting and apologies OP that your thread has been hijacked.

We really don't take too kindly to folks being massively patronising. As KateS said above "Let it go"

Sending peace and love all round and thanks very much for all of the reports.

SummerHouse · 28/01/2015 16:26

Sorry OP for my stupid mention of a spelling. I meant it to be funny but in hindsight it was not. I have dyslexia and in my final year I was given a book to write all my spellings in. I was 15. Of all people I should know that drawing attention to it can be frustrating and annoying. Hope you dismissed it for the silly comment it was.

JakeShit · 28/01/2015 18:52

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zobey · 28/01/2015 19:38

Wow, been at work all day and it's all kicked off. I do have a update... Things to day were a lot better not as much trouble today but he did crack down straight away. Thanks to the posters who actually gave me relative advice. As to spelling, punctuation and other aspects like that I am dyslexic so I apologise. Thank you mn for stepping in. X

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EatShitDerek · 28/01/2015 19:39

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JakeShit · 28/01/2015 19:56

Zobey. Doh, I think there was an unfortunate autocorrect in your last post. I think 'so I apologise' should have been 'so FO' Grin

anothernumberone · 28/01/2015 19:57

Glad to hear it Zobey.

anothernumberone · 28/01/2015 19:58

Yes Jake Shit you might have a point there

itiswhatitiswhatitis · 28/01/2015 20:04

Oh don't apologise to the grammar police. People who come on threads to point out people's spelling errors are massive wank stains

ilovesooty · 28/01/2015 20:13

Glad the trainer cracked down on it and at last did his job properly.

Blueblueblueblue · 28/01/2015 21:33

Yay Zobey!! Glad today was better.

KurriKurri · 29/01/2015 01:31

Oh purleeease - the day after the Holocaust memorial and we can't mention goosestepping Nazis?

Firstly -when is it OK to say Nazi as a term for those who appoint themsleves police of others innocuous behaviour? It's a commonly used expression to describe such folk - you may argue you don't like it, but don't bring in the Holocaust memorial day+one argument - it is nonsense. Would it be OK on Holocaust memorial day plus two or plus twenty or what???? The murder of the Jewish people is unspeakably terrible on any day of the year, not just the day after Holocaust Memorial day. And nothing to do with the argument on this thread.

Secondly - one of the most powerful ways of opposing tyranny is to ridicule it - that's why British people ridiculed the Nazis in the war, and that's why it is Ok to use Nazi as a term in a way that ridicules them now. It has nothing whatsoever to do with disrespecting the memory of those killed in the Holocaust, and it is utterly disingenuous to suggest that it is, just to try to score a cheap point on an internet forum when someone says it is bad manners to correct someone's grammer. Correcting someone's grammer on a conversational medium such as mumsnet forum is rude and nasty. Don't start trying to exploit a horrendous human tragedy because you've been called out on your manners. Grow up instead.

Thirdly - Don't talk the F* to me about when I can or can't use the term Nazi in any way I choose - hundreds of thousands of my ancestors died at the hands of the Nazis, as well as the millions of Jewish people - and yes we remember them and honour them although many others forget about them completely, because we are still considered a sub category of humananity by many. Use of the name of our oppressors in a colloquial way, on an internet forum, doesn't mean I think Nazis are a good thing.
Guess what - like most people, and maybe a bit more than most people I think the Nazis were beyond evil.

Self righteous hand wringing and knicker twisting about using the term is a cheap and pathetic reaction to being caught out playing school bully over someone's grammatical mistake.

KurriKurri · 29/01/2015 01:34

I missed the HQ message above. But wanted to defend myself against a very insulting slur. Whether my defense is allowed to stand is up to HQ.
And sorry for late response - I'm in different time zone.

SunshineAndShadows · 29/01/2015 07:57

Actually Kuri it was me that thought the use of the term 'nazi' was an inappropriate response to someone correcting grammar. And for what it's worth I don't think it's a helpful comparison in any circumstances regardless of the date. You may not find it offensive, and it's absolutely your right to disregard others feelings if you wish.

But as I never actually pointed out the OP's error or corrected her grammar I am certainly not 'twisting' it to defend my 'school bully antics' because I have at not at any point criticised the OP for her grammar. So your massive rant above is actually baseless and misguided.

Icimoi · 29/01/2015 08:08

This may well be a stupid idea but - might it be an idea for MN to correct the more blatant errors in thread titles? Or at least allow for an edit function? I know I've started at least one thread with a blatant typing error that changed the meaning but couldn't come back to it for a day, by which time it was full of posts mostly saying "Huh?" or "Did you really mean that?" and rather a lot of YABUs. If MN just quietly changed things, it would stop threads getting sidetracked and would save a lot of anguish for people who are made genuinely uncomfortable by obvious errors, however caused.

ptumbi · 29/01/2015 08:51

How would that work, though, Ici? You posted a message with a meaning other than what you meant - how would MN know what you meant?

We can't know what you mean, we can only read what you say.

Pagwatch · 29/01/2015 09:12

(Sorry Rebecca)

But,
Whilst I understand the desire to create a solution to this, it implies that this is some difficult scenario requiring a strategy when it really really doesn't.

It just require people not to be dickheads.
If the construction of the thread title offends your pedantic sensitivities just don't open it.
The urge to be a posturing smug superior wanker is surely not within the ethos of the site.

A person with dyslexia or a poor education or posting swiftly in a state of distress returning to their thread to see their spelling corrected would be mortified.

YoullLikeItNotaLot · 29/01/2015 09:28

When I see a blatant error, I do notice it but then just get on with reading the thread.

Using the famous "let's eat, Grandma"/"let's eat Grandma!" example, if there was any ambiguity then it's ok to ask for clarification.

On this post, it was perfectly clear what the OP meant and I think the urge from some posters to show how "superior" they are was more grating than a couple of errors.

The whole "well I'd want to know if I'd made such an error" point is just balls. If you think that the OP would genuinely like to be made aware of their error then drop them a PM. Don't derail their thread. And yes, I know I'm continuing the derailing but that ship's well and truly sailed now.

BitOutOfPractice · 29/01/2015 09:50

Is this still going? Confused

Sunshine, the term nazi is used widely as a colloquial term. As you know. And as my post pointed out, that use of it is so widespread it's made it into many dictionaries.

If you wish to imply that pointing that out makes me some kind of fascist or holicaust apologist, I find that very offensive.

OP I'm really pleased the course has improved!

SunshineAndShadows · 29/01/2015 19:35

For goodness sake Bit not everything is about you! Though you seem determined to make it so.

I assume you can read so all I'll say is scroll up read my post pointing out that no I'm not jumping on my high horse to mask my bullying as suggested by Kuri because I never actually critiqued the OP. I simply don't think it's a sensitive term. As I said to her, you may not find it offensive, and you're perfectly welcome to disregard others feelings.
I'm not sure which part of it you think is directed at you but i can assure you it's not. I've also never implied that you are any of the things you're suggesting in any of my posts or called you or anyone else names.
But please don't let the actual facts get in the way of a good outraged frothing will you dear? Be as offended as you like at my lack of implied name-calling of you. I wouldn't want you to feel left out.

zobey · 29/01/2015 21:48

Since this has lost the purpose of why I posted. I have requested that it is closed to comments, as I feel like there is some personal comments that others may find offensive.

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LineRunner · 30/01/2015 10:13

zobey, I do admire you for returning to your cruelly derailed thread. Your conduct, both as described in your OP and on the thread, has been exemplary. That of others, not so much.

Good luck in your job and your life and carry on being assertive. And don't let the twats get you down, either in real life or here. Smile