to of said something

[zobey]

I started training for a new job and we are in a large group for this. Every time that the trainer is talking the same group of lads sit and talk. It's really off putting and I've tried to block them out but I carnt. A few others in the group have picked up on it too. I stayed behind and in passing mentioned it to the trainer who said he has noticed and will be sorting it tomorrow. Was ibu to say something?

I agree the trainer should have sorted it out by now. But why on earth would you feel bad about complaining??

Good for you for speaking to the trainer.

Ignore the twats pulling you up on your grammar. Saddos.

Perhaps some posters should understand that to some people "of" instead of "'ve" is something they feel strongly about.

Then those posters need to get a fucking life.

Definitely make sure your children know that correct written English just doesn't matter - it will get them really far.

did you understand what the op was saying fluffy? please remember you are not proof reading and being an arse pointing out grammatical errors is not necessary nor an obligation.

op yanbu

I knew as soon as I saw the thread title that there would be more posts crucifying the OP's grammar than there would saying whether she is being unreasonable or not.

We should start reporting these pointless grammar nazi posts and have them removed.

To answer the OP, YWNBU to mention the rude and distracting behaviour by your colleagues, but the trainer was being unreasonable to not pull them up on it earlier - I am assuming he didn't mention it during the work day? If I was the trainer, I would ask them to shut the fuck up stop talking as we went along, but if it happened persistently I would mention it to their line managers at breaks/lunchtime.

yy usual - pedants are such tedious fuckers

goose stepping grammar nazis Really?? The day after the haulocaust memorial??
And you're complaining that correcting the use of language is offensive!!?

Sure it's not the point of the OP but why get so offended by a correction? You could view it as an opportunity to learn rather than get all frothing! If the OP is in the workplace then colleagues etc will judge her if she doesn't have a basic grasp of language so surely it's better pointed out here than in her professional life?

Grammar and spelling - absolutely they matter. They do. People can feel strongly about it all at appropriate times.

Someone asking for help or advice on an issue unrelated to grammar is not the appropriate time to respond with a lesson on grammar.

It is rude and what is worse, it shows a lack of compassion.

Bugger your problem, fuck what's upsetting you, all that matters to me is you put of when you should have put have and I'm going to Put You Right. It's for your own good, don't you know...

ok, on a not too emotional aibu it's not quite so dickish because the person who is being helpfully educated isn't someone currently upset about their actual problem but I have seen people pour their bloody hearts out only to have some utter twat respond with a spelling or grammar correction.

To make grammatical errors may be irritating. It's not good English. To correct someone instead of engaging with them on the issue they have asked advice on? Shitty as hell.

Feel free to respond to this by correcting my grammar.

OP - of course you WNBU to say something!

However - the use of 'to of' when you mean 'to have' (or to've, or 'they've', or 'could've' ) is almost painful to some people, me included. Doesn''t make me a Pedant. It's never too late to learn.

I sometimes feel that it will not be long before the only people who can speak (and write) proper English - are the foreigners! They usually speak excellent English, where the 'English', well, don't,

Of course spelling etc matters but this is a forum where it doesn't really matter. I noticed the of error straight away and knew it would be commented on. I think it is bad manners to pull someone up on it on a thread, unless of course the thread is slating other peoples spelling.

In regard to original op ywnbu.

Spelling, punctuation and grammar matter at work, job applications, in published materials (books, restaurant menus, company websites) and on road signs etc.

They do not matter on chat forums on the internet, as long as the meaning is not changed.

And it is discriminatory against people with SNs or if English is not their first language.

If I posted that I thought that a child I saw in a supermarket was badly behaved and his parents should have controlled him better, there would be armies of posters going 'perhaps he had SNs, autism, asbergers, etc etc,etc'. They would say 'Perhaps the parents were having a stressy time and difficulty coping'. Don't judge a snapshot etc etc, and rightly so.

But if someone makes a simple, inconsequential little error in their posts, then loads of people just can't help pulling them up on it.

Regarding the 'helpful' grammar corrections in this thread:

It's rude not because 'correct' grammar isn't important but because in these circumstances manners are more important.

Please feel free to correct your children's written English but if you also teach them that it is correct etiquette to correct another adult (a stranger no less) in public then they won't get very far no matter how perfect their grammar.

Finally if you read the OP anyone with an ounce of sensitivity can identify that the poster seems quite shy and in need of a confidence boost. In my opinion you all should be more ashamed of your lack of compassion that she should be over a grammar slip.

There's a time and place people.

Oh and OP, you did exactly the right thing.

You (or perhaps your employer) are paying for the training and aren't getting the service you are entitled to if others are allowed to disrupt. The trainer should have resolved this immediately.

I'm sure the rest of your class will be grateful for your intervention.

And the perceived rudeness of that correction makes it acceptable to align it with a horrific genocide?

I can totally accept that where a poster has posted asking for help (not the case here) it is insensitive and crass to ignore that to correct basic English.

But to align correction to proper English with widescale facist murder is apparently acceptable? Really? Only on MN!

HowCanIMissYouIfYouWontGoAway I agree with every word you've typed there. Really. I wonder why some people think being a snitty grammar arse is better than bad grammar.

Anyway OP YANBU - this sort of rudeness in courses drives me bonkers. I had this a couple of months ago and it made me furious. The trainer needs to get a grip of it! Hope it's sorted today and good luck in your new job

Sunshine I didn't comment on or condone that comment in my post.

And the fact that it was a poorly thought out choice of words from that particular poster in no way negates the rudeness displayed towards the OP throughout this thread.

Just out of interest I looked up the definition of nazi and, as well as its original National Socialist German Workers' Party meaning, it is also defined nowadays, (especially with a lower case n) as " a person who is fanatically dedicated to or seeks to regulate a specified activity, practice"

What a way to derail a thread - how rude all round. She didn't ask for her grammar, spelling, punctuation or whatever to be corrected

OP not unreasonable to mention to the trainer as he is wasting his time if people cannot learn. You might have felt a little awkward but since it'll benefit you and others, it seems the right thing to do

No you were not BU at all OP, and neither were the people mentioning the 'To of' comment. I would rather someone pointed out a grammatical error I made,..so I wouldn't continue to make it. It's not a typo, the Op may not realise it is not correct.

In fairness if I spell something wrong or my grammar is off I would like someone to point it out.

Especially if the OP is going into some sort of admin job, it'll be useful for her to know its 'have' and 'can't' not 'carnt'.

But it doesn't have to be mentioned in a nasty way.

Ah the irony! Looking up a dictionary definition in order to defend the folks using offensive language to critique the correction of language...

Correcting someone's spelling, when they have posted on here to ask a question about an issue which upsets or concerns them, is crass, ignorant , ill mannered and thick.

So those of you doing so - well done.

Your use of English is admirable.
Your manners are appalling.

It doesn't matter how many people post 'Oh I'd like to be told...' No one knows how the poster feels.

It is every bit as wrong as telling someone to fuck off, because that's basically what you are saying, they aren't 'good enough' to post here.

I suggest anyone else that agrees that it is out of order, reports those posts on this thread.