To ask your thoughts on Jon Venables joining a dating site?

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With his new name no one can do a google search on him and find his history.

He was found not long ago with images of child abuse.

Should he be able to get on with his life now he is out of prison? Of course he can just as easily meet someone in the pub.

I just had a debate with a family member about this so interested in your thoughts.

Link here

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/james-bulger-killer-jon-venables-5039227

Yes, me too. My little boy is nearly 3, it makes my blood run cold.

The thing is you have to remember that people know who he was, he was telling people, revealing his identity. And of course he disappeared when he was recalled to prison and people will have put two and two together. In fact I remember when he was recalled a collegue of mine's tenants skipped off without paying the rent and the police raided them and we wondered if it was him but I think it turned out it wasn't in the end.

But someone who knew who he was will have seen it and called the paper. I think the paper can justify it by saying it's in the public interest.

Life should have meant life for Venables and Thomson. They killed a three year old child after torturing him. They did not deserve freedom. EVER EVER EVER.

Yes it has. People line up to make excuses for them and Venables has quite obviously exploited it. He was sleeping with the staff in one of his youth homes, all the staff who have spoken about their involvement seem to have been completely taken in by him and were very shocked when it began to become clear this man is a sadistic paedophile and that was probably the motivation behind the crimes. His supervision by the probation service was woeful and he was regularly breaking the terms of his parole and they turned a blind eye to it.

The idea that he has somehow been dealt with harshly is wide of the mark.

I wonder how many of the people saying leave JV in peace would be saying the same thing if it turned out he lived next door to them and their children.

Even though they were tried in an adult court they were treated very leniently, the authorities bent over backwards to make sure they were well looked after. When they reached the age of 18 they were released rather than be transfered to an adult jail. Their names were released because their crime was so shocking the public had a right to know, as often happens in cases of shocking child crimes. Their right to anonymity in the case of Venables is undeserved.

Again I agree Pine, they were not treated as they were adults. The authorities bent of backwards accommodating them and making their stay as comfortable as possible. They were not thrown in a cold hard cell, with bread and water.

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They were never truly punished, apart from their obvious loss of freedom they had quite a good life by all accounts. Maybe they were never made to feel any remorse because they were treated so well. If they were never made to feel the enormity of their crime because staff treated them so well is it any wonder.

He was homed in a town near me a few years ago and used to get drunk in the local and tell people who he was.
He was rearrested on the child images charges and (afaik) has been given another identity. He didn't give a shit that he was revealing himself the first time.
This is very disturbing if true...

They were tried in an adult court, because if i remember rightly, they did not have the facilities to deal with children who murdered, it was rare, so they really did not know how to deal with it.

Because of the gravity of the crime, I guess the judicial system felt that this was the only option.

who the hell would admit to who they were and what they did

he sounds like a complete tool

I don't see why this is such a big deal though Chunderella....... Maybe the adult trial was done to stress the enormity of their crime. I don't know, but if it was, what's so wrong about that. They'd commited a terrible crime, is it so wrong that they went to an adult court and were treated with all the seriousness it deserved. Surely James's parents had the right to see that the murderers of their only child were not being treated with kid gloves.

I know Ilove! Apparently he was almost boasting like he was saying 'you will never guess who i am'

This came from a trusted friend, who spoke to him.

Tool indeed, he obviously is not rehabilitated and needs help, also to be removed from causing the general public harm...

There's as much chance of meeting someone online with a very unsavoury past as there is of meeting a guy in the pub with a very unsavoury past.

And I object to sympathy being offered to the "poor single mothers" who presumably are perceived as being in that situation only because they have a faulty twat radar and are so gagging for it that they'll trust any old paedophile.

He won't be the only sex offender on the dating site. If he is violating the terms of his licence or whatever he is on, presumably it will be dealt with. If he isn't, then I presume that some judge somewhere has decided he can get on with his life. You can't stop someone from dating. He has a right to a private life, and to a family life if that doesn't violate his licence.

Just because his name has induced hysteria for the last 20 years doesn't mean he is any more or less entitled than any other offender to a private life.

JV sleeping with someone who works at his care home is an issue of unprofessional staff

when working in a care profession, working as a therapist/psychologist it is not unusual for those in your care/client/patient to have sexual feelings or feelings or being in love with you - to act on that is totally unprofessional

I do not quite understand why someone who has been abused would find it insulting to read that JV may have been a victim himself, abuse is complex maybe some are just able to empathise after reading about his background and see it as being a possible factor in his behaviour. If they are maybe it is about how they feel about their own abuse and how it was dealt with

At the time feelings were running so high that I believe there was a fear from the government and justice department that if they were not tried as adults what could happen. I can remember the baying crowds outside the courts and feeling ashamed that this had been encouraged by the press who were feeding peoples anger, hurt and fear. It was just beyond understanding how could we possibly understand but it should have been a time to try and understand but it is far easier to label two young boys as being evil

I do not need to imagine what it may be like, as I can not possibly know what it is like but I can empathise with the Bulger family no less than someone who wants to try and imagine

Would I like RT or JV to be living next door to me no not really would I know if their identity was totally kept private no which is what I support their names should never have been released. The will never be free to live a free life they know they will be tracked down again and again their crime they will never be free of (and who knows what is going in in their minds) is that not punishment enough

men who seek children will often target single mothers

nobody is saying they have a faulty twat radar ffs

fact is quite a few singleparents do find it hard to meet somebody,for pretty obvious reasons,its a bloomin site harder than being a care free no kids 20yr old

ive met some and been one (single parent),the evenings are the worst,young kids in bed,stuck in all alone,no company,to some internet dating fills the boredom and loneliness,so yes i think they can be a target for some with ulterior motives

I think what we need to remember is that you NEVER know who anyone is on the Internet. Whether it's dating, or chat rooms or whatever.

There are abusers in the pub, there are paedophiles walking down the street. You just have to trust that the authorities are able to monitor and protect the vulnerable.

There are paedophiles on mumsnet! At least one that we know of, anyone who has a longish memory will tell you that.