To ask your thoughts on Jon Venables joining a dating site?

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With his new name no one can do a google search on him and find his history.

He was found not long ago with images of child abuse.

Should he be able to get on with his life now he is out of prison? Of course he can just as easily meet someone in the pub.

I just had a debate with a family member about this so interested in your thoughts.

Link here

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/james-bulger-killer-jon-venables-5039227

No, but tgat book certainly gives you a brief insight, and what a horrific, heartbreaking and dreadful one it is. Yes their upbringing can provide an explanation, but it us not an excuse. A lot if children have abusive, and dysfunctional upbringings, but they don't all go on to murder little children.

I don't think those boys ever had normal lives - unless being tortured for fun by older siblings and being left to watch 18 cert films on the electronic babysitter TV is normal.

I would hope that single mothers would make use of Sarah's law though - he is presumably a registered sex offender under his new identity.

Nickynacky I'm giving my opinion, what makes anyone's the right one. As for all the do gooders getting it wrong? Well the proof is out there. People are released too soon and go on to commit murder. The experts are the ones who often warn against having someone released and they're over ruled. The offender then goes on to commit murder. This isn't hearsay, it's fact.

I find damning ten year olds to a life in prison and condemning them as wicked and sadistic and therefore not worthy of a chance to a normal life once their sentence has been served shocking in a developed society.

You cannot judge children by the same standards you apply to adults.

And let me make it very clear: I do not seek to minimise their crime.

Pine genuinely interested, what case are you referring to where the expert warned against release? And honestly, you don't need to try and convince me of all people about re offenders.

Very few murderers have full life tariff. That's also a fact. The vast majority will be released and many will be relatively for and young. That isn't going to change any time soon.

Although it is your opinion, I think you are bordering on being personal by asking if people are stupid just because they don't agree with you.

That's your opinion wow, thank goodness not everyone shares that.

no one on here has said the experiences of JV or RT gave them a reason or excuse

but many believe that their could be reasons as to why this happened

the born evil or good is outdated (years ago)

how would they at the age of 10 even have the capacity to know and act out what they did

Yes they are wicked and sadistic to do tgat to a little baby what else can they be, little angles

And likewise Aeroflotgirl, thankfully not everyone shares your opinion.

they were children who were extremely damaged

in different circumstances yes they may have been little angles they may have been the children that did well at school, who had a happy and secure family life, who became happy and secure adults

but tragically that did not happen

The police who interviewed them, who spoke on the programme and who met them,was certain that they did know exactly what they were doing. That day they wanted to take a little child, they had already tried earlier unsuccessfully, they saw James. along that route they had opportunities to let him go, passers by asked and they told them he was their brother. They could have let him go then, but they did not!

Only one of them was tortured by siblings.

This was premeditated.

aeroflotgirl I don't think anyone is doubting the gravity of their actions, or that they intended to take James.

We know the facts of the case. No one is denying them. We might as well go back to medieval times if there is no attempt to understand why they acted as they did and try to prevent such a horrific crime happening again.

Sometimes it feels so nicknacky. Yes their upbringing probably played a big part, I just feel the sentence should reflect the crime,

And I should add, no attempt to rehabilitate the children whose lives were so distorted that they committed this crime.

Wow I am not saying put them on the electric chair or the sticks fgs,

Well, we can't go back on time and change the length of sentence.

No we can't, we can only voice our opinion, what is done is done. Venables still is sadistic and hasen't been rehabilitated.

do you really think that children of 10 have the capacity to think of doing what they did unless they themselves have been subjected to cruelty and neglect

what had they witnessed as children

But your answer was a longer period of time in detention. I don't believe the experts believed that was necessary for these two.

Yes Freud I did say tgat their upbringing can provide some explanation of why they did what they did

I don't always agree with the decisions of the criminal justice system.

Nickynacky do you read the papers. There's literally loads being released back into the community. It's so well documented, just google it, and in countless times criminal behavioural experts warn against them being released because they are still a danger to the public. They often then go on to murder. It shouldn't happen. As for me saying "are people stupid", don't take it too literally.