To ask your thoughts on Jon Venables joining a dating site?

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With his new name no one can do a google search on him and find his history.

He was found not long ago with images of child abuse.

Should he be able to get on with his life now he is out of prison? Of course he can just as easily meet someone in the pub.

I just had a debate with a family member about this so interested in your thoughts.

Link here

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/james-bulger-killer-jon-venables-5039227

I do not for one minute think that naming these children deters other children from murder

I agree.

Some strange ideas about ten year olds on this thread.

What do you think that would achieve?

That question was directed at Aeroflotgirl.

It would reflect the gravity of their crime, yes they are children, but chikdren who have butuured and tortured a little baby.

It woukd mean they would be a lot older before being released.

I think spending their adolescence in prison does reflect that. It was almost half their lives they were locked up.

Not really, they were still,fairly young when they were released, that's nothing. the time does not reflect the crime IMHO.

Some strange ideas about ten year olds on this thread.
The "strange ideas about 10 year olds on this thread" are not the thoughts of anyone on this thread though Arsenic, it was taken from section39 of the children and young offenders act, when a poster suggested that it achieves nothing naming a child accused of serious crime. Obviously you don't agree, but experts on child behaviour think otherwise.

There's even more chance an offender will be institutionalised and fail to live a normal life if they are held until they are older. That benefits no one.

Who said anything about living a normal life, they have to be punished appropriately for what they did, this is taking the piss and showing that this is not being taken seriously.

Apart from protecting the general public. Or do they not count?

The moment they committed that crime, they stopped living a normal life.

This us showing James Parents that it is not being taken seriously. Yes Raph Bluger said as such in his autobiography.

I don't believe retribution is the answer.

Yes they were two,little boys, but two wicked and sadistic little boys.

Will agree to disagree, after all we are all entitled to our opinions even if we don't agree.

Who knows what you would feel if you were in James PRents shoes.

Are people stupid, dangerous people whether they're children or adults, if they commit serious crime, they have to be taken off the streets. What is hard to understand about that. The countless murders that have happened in the UK because interfering know all do gooders have decided the offender is fit to be released even though they've been told by experts that they are still a danger to the public is unbelievable. Sod the human rights of the criminals, the publics rights are important not theirs. I'm sick of do gooders and apologists who think more about the criminal than the victim. Get your priorities right ffs.

I agree pine, there are cases where a serious criminal has been released early, and has gone on to committ murder or another serious crime. custodial sentences are just so short.

And they were children. You cannot judge children of their ages at the time they committed the crime by the same standards as you do adults. I simply do not believe they were born evil. Which means they deserve to be given a chance to live a normal life as adults.

From what I know of the case and everything I have read, this was their one crime. A horrific crime, yes, but that doesn't mean they were 'wicked and sadistic' through and through.

No I judge on the crime, not the age. They may not be born evil, but they became evil or sadistic through circumstances. Yes they were as they committed such a heinous and barbaric crime, please don't down play it. I suggest you read Ralph Bulgers autobiography to get a parents insight, to see things from their angle.

pine What makes you think that your view is the correct one and all the experts/government/probation/counsellors and others who are involved in the judicial system are wrong? It's a massively complex area and one that is always reviewed and under scrutiny.

It's not as simple as "a do gooder" releasing prisoners.

At the end they were wicked and sadistic, or they would not have militated or tortured that little boy.

Wowfudge they deserve to be given a chance? they've certainly been given that and for Venables at least it's obviously not working. How many chances should he be given."This was their one crime" ?? Oh well that's all right then, they're not that bad are they. I find that statement quite shocking tbh.

No, I am not stupid, or a do gooder, or an apologist. I'm actually trying to see this from more than one perspective.

Who knows what you would feel in James' parents' shoes. Actually none of us knows - thank god because it must have been an absolutely horrific experience.