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To think the Green Party are just making themselves look ridiculous?

169 replies

curiousgeorgie · 25/01/2015 19:58

They really seemed to be gaining support...

But this new 'we will evict the queen from Buckingham palace and put her into a council house' just makes them sound stupid?

I've seen Green Party supporters on facebook sharing this post with excitement and glee but... Really?

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GatoradeMeBitch · 25/01/2015 21:26

MyCarHasBrokenDownAgain Are you from Brighton?

CaffeLatteIceCream · 25/01/2015 21:27

It's hardly their fault if people are too dim to spot a joke. And such an obvious one at that.

And, wtf? We shouldn't debate the abolition of the monarchy because lots of people support it? So? Lots of people don't.

It's one of their proposals as part of their manifesto, so it will be talked about. Sorry about that.

AuntieStella · 25/01/2015 21:30

Calling the electorate 'dim' is a fast way to lose support.

They'll be able to debate the future of the monarchy all they like. But that won't make it a decisive or important issue for this election.

BuildYourOwnSnowman · 25/01/2015 21:35

Interesting manifesto. If you are anti eu and on the left you can give them your vote instead of ukip.

They seem to want to spend a lot of money and make a lot of things happen with very little to back it all up.

Also not sure about their plans re the sex industry.

Lottiedoubtie · 25/01/2015 21:35

Shock at that telegraph article.

It seems there is literally noone worth voting for in the next election.

The world has gone mad.

SolomanDaisy · 25/01/2015 21:50

I wouldn't judge the green party's policies on the basis of a telegraph article, it is hardly neutral. And their horror at legalised drugs and prostitution hardly reflects the fact that these are policies that exist elsewhere in Europe, without causing the breakdown of civil society.

People are always saying they want something different to the main political parties. The greens are, quite radically different. And actually, yes, they are naive enough not to realise the impact a joke might have, because they aren't a fully professionalised political party. Nor likely to be any time soon, since they don't have the type of policies to attract big money. And most of the British public just likes a good moan, not actual different policies.

chantico · 25/01/2015 21:59

Is The Telegraph accurate in the international sports policy?

Which the paper outlines without any commentary at all.

Because I think what they propose would take all the home nations out of the Olympics, Paralympics, and football World Cup, and quite possibly other world cups too.

SolomanDaisy · 25/01/2015 22:07

policy.greenparty.org.uk/ed.html

Have a look at their policy site!

StarsOfTrackAndField · 25/01/2015 22:08

Yes the completely fair and balanced Daily Telegraph. It isn't like they've got a pro-Tory anti-left agenda to push or anything is it?

XmasMN9502 · 25/01/2015 22:27

Hh

BuildYourOwnSnowman · 25/01/2015 22:35

Well I've looked through the rather unwieldy website and can't say I have changed my opinion!

Anyway, I live in a very safe labour seat so I don't really have a vote.

Bazoo23 · 25/01/2015 22:43

What a ridiculous party, I always agreed and sympathised with them on environmental issues but after hearing their terrifying views on ISIS et al.... I'd rather vote Labour and thats saying something!

TheNewStatesman · 25/01/2015 23:22

It's a pity, because there is a room for a good moderately left-ish party that is serious about tackling inequality and investing in green energy. I'd vote for that. But a lot of their agenda sounds like something scribbled on the back of a napkin by a bunch of 19 year olds putting the world to rights at the Student' Uni bar.

The Queen thing will just frighten people off. A lot of their environmental agenda is not science-based (like the blanket opposition to GMOs). And they want a super generous welfare state AND practically open borders, which will not work; history has shown that in the long run, you can have either a generous welfare state or a generous immigration policy, but it's pretty much impossible to combine both--that's why the Nordic countries struggle so much with the immigration issue.

Madness.

CaffeLatteIceCream · 26/01/2015 00:19

Erm, AuntieStella was me who called people "dim", not someone from the Green Party so your "losing support" thing is totally irrelevant.

I don't know who I'm voting for yet.

And, so what if the monarchy issue isn't "decisive"? The point I was trying to make is that the OBVIOUS JOKE you've all bizarrely pounced on came up as part of their manifesto pledge to abolish the monarchy.

Sensible people wanting a sensible discussion about manifestos before the GE would discuss that....not gasp at the very idea of one of the richest women in the country having to live in a council house. As if in a billion years that would ever happen. The Queen has rather a lot of her own, private money. Do you think the Green Party don't know that?

How bloody ridiculous.

CaffeLatteIceCream · 26/01/2015 00:22

They don't want a super-generous welfare state. They want NO welfare state.

I think understanding their policies would be a good idea before taking them apart.

SlicedAndDiced · 26/01/2015 00:30

Ah they had me at abolishing the monarchy and £75 quid (easily bought)

They lost me on decriminalising prestigious and the right to join a terrorist group (what the actual fuck?)

TheNewStatesman · 26/01/2015 00:35

What are their views on Islamic State??

SlicedAndDiced · 26/01/2015 00:39

Prestigious? Prostitution!

BadLad · 26/01/2015 00:50

It's hardly their fault if people are too dim to spot a joke. And such an obvious one at that.

It's extremely dim of them to make a joke that the electorate could misunderstand, misquote and take out of context to such an extent.

HopelessFancyFeigned · 26/01/2015 00:57

What are their views on Islamic State??

It and Al Qaeda and similar terrorist organisations should not be proscribed and it should not be a crime to be a member. They say this is criminalising thoughts, not actions.

I suppose what they have in mind is that, for example, I'm a pretty inactive member of Amnesty and the SSPCA (beyond donating money) I suppose what they are getting at is I might think supporting prisoners of conscience and ending animal cruelty are good things but I don't actually get off my arse to do anything much about it.

I think I'd prefer that we don't take the risk that members and supporters of IS and Al Qaeda are as indolent as me.
I suppose I might think the destruction of a corrupt, decadent infidel western society is a good thing but I might not get off my arse to do anything about that either.

HopelessFancyFeigned · 26/01/2015 00:59

Sorry, last 3 paragraphs are out of order.

Should say

I suppose I might think the destruction of a corrupt, decadent infidel western society is a good thing but I might not get off my arse to do anything about that either.

think I'd prefer that we don't take the risk that members and supporters of IS and Al Qaeda are as indolent as me.

MyCarHasBrokenDownAgain · 26/01/2015 07:53

Gatorade No thank god, but I work there. It's nightmare, I now have an extra 30 minutes added to my trip daily thanks to their fuckwitted travel schemes Angry

SolomanDaisy · 26/01/2015 08:08

They would make it legal to be a member of organisations currently banned as terrorist, but it would remain illegal to plan violent actions as part of those organisations. I can see that there is an argument for that and that, historically, including people with certain views in legitimate political processes has been an alternative to violence. It also forces them to be more explicit about what they want. And I think it may make them less appealing to rebellious young people who are feeling excluded. It's certainly an option worth discussing, not a plan that makes them crazy.

I also think it's important to know what their cornerstone policies are. They're not going to be a ruling party,so what are the key things they would hold on to to be part of a coalition? Labour are never going to agree to making al-Qaeda membership legal, so it's irrelevant really.

silveroldie2 · 26/01/2015 08:53

Have just had a look at their policy site - I needed a good laugh this morning.

kaykayred · 26/01/2015 08:59

Just been through their policies.

Sounds like one massive fucking joke.

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