AIBU to think that UKIP don't just hate women, gays, and immigrants but also children?

[ReallyAngryBeavers]

We've had another pile of shit bit of post from UKIP today.

Firstly I am an immigrant I am here by virtue of my EU passport. Should the UK choose to leave the European Union my children would have right to stay but I wouldn't. So I admit I am biased.

There brochure says that grandparents will be given visitation rights. Being that most abuses cases will never go to court and there won't be a "track record" of abuse...shouldn't we leave it to parents to decide who the fuck we give our children to?

They want to cap benefits at 2 children. So people who lose their jobs at 4 kids can just let the last two starve right?

The brochure also promises starting out with 50/50 shared custody. Right, that's great if the majority of families were already practicing 50/50 parenting but as any regular reader of the relationships board can tell you.. There are a lot of absentee dads who are not doing the job while married to their wives. The time is not after the marriage has dissolved to let them play at being a parent so they don't have to pay child support and a woman who has potentially already given up their wage to be a sahp can just be totally fucked over while dad still has all the earning potential.

They want to repeal the Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European court of Human Rights.

They state "business should be able to discriminate in favour of young British workers".

They want to alter the smoking ban, because he why not give everyone working in the pubs cancer while we're ruining the country.

They want to repeal the climate change act. In fact next to immigration they've got loads of legislation to destroy the environment for future generations in the works. Whohoo.

so we now have hoovers that aren't powerful enough bulbs that don't work and criminals with no fear..
Ukip rely on the fact that there are gullible folk like you about. Hoovers not powerful enough is a nonsense. May I suggest you read the EU myths page.

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criminals with no fear.

crime has been dropping for about 15-20 years. Blaming the EU for our crime problems when much of the EU has lower crime seems off.

Summary: new EU energy efficiency rules under the Eco-Design Directive agreed by elected Ministers and MEPs will not reduce the performance of household appliances, as some media have claimed. Indeed, earlier measures have led to appliances performing much better. The changes will save consumers money and give them better information, contribute to tackling climate change and help reduce dependence on imported energy. Industry, consumers and the UK government support the latest changes. From 1 January 2015 they will improve consumer information, particularly online, on how much household appliances cost to run, reduce energy waste by coffee machines and ensure that network devices like routers and smart TVs have an automatic standby mode. Details here. New minimum energy efficiency standards for gas and electric domestic ovens and cookers and for range hoods are to be phased in over four years from February 2015.

From one of the links I posted above. Just so that it's here, on the thread.

Aldi sell 60 & 100w light bulbs ...damn Europeans

A fridge purchased now uses half the electricity to run of one bought just over a decade ago, in large part because of EU regulations. And it's cheaper to buy as well. Haven't noticed my fridge not working as well, I have to say.

Lighting costs for modern CFLs or LEDs are a quarter over their lifetime than incandescent bulbs - and to be honest modern CFLs and particularly LEDs are just as diverse and flexible in the light they give out as the old bulbs; the cold/dim argument is very outdated.

I'd much rather have regulation driving innovation that lowers costs and increases efficiency than cater to the minority who want to throw money away on inefficient, expensive appliances. But hey, I like saving money.

People who want to repeat the Human Rights Act are never great at choosing which human rights it is they don't want. However, they tend to be very keen on dictating what human rights other people should be deprived of. And that is essentially UKIP's stance.

See no harm in capping child benifits.. Can't afford it don't have it.

So what about people who have children when they can afford it, only to find that they become too ill to work, or their employer goes bust and they're out of a job? Should their third and fourth children starve?

And it's the eu meddling that's screwed us over so we now have hoovers that aren't powerful enough bulbs that don't work and criminals with no fear..

LilMiss, you've been making the mistake of believing the propaganda. There is nothing in EU laws that requires hoovers not to be powerful enough: it simply requires manufacturers to produce machines that are more efficient and less power hungry, and in practice the vast majority of vacuum cleaners on the market already satisfy those requirements. Why would you object to something that brings your electricity bills down?

Modern bulbs are perfectly efficient. And if you think the EU produces criminals with no fear, how do you account for the fact that crime rates are consistently falling? How do you account for people like the Moors Murderers, the Kray and Richardson gangs and the Great Train Robbers?

See no harm in capping child benifits.. Can't afford it don't have it.

Who do you think will suffer in this situation? And if children really are struggling and the state needs to step in...how much do you think that will cost? Foster care isn't free.