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AIBU?

"medium" friend "spoke" with my dead DH

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reallyupsetwithF · 15/01/2015 23:05

Namechanged so if am recognised it isn't stuck to my usual name.

My DH died late last year.
I met my friend who I work with a year ago. She is a nice enough women but she does believe she is a medium. She offers card readings and ghost hunting tours to everyone and I am aware that some people have taken her up on the offer. (She does charge for these)

I don't believe in mediums, psychics or anything like that really. I don't mention my beliefs around her I just smile and nod or change the subject when she brings it up. Mostly because I don't want to get into a big thing about beliefs and have to debate about it mostly because nothing that she would tell me would change mind.

Since my DH died there was a Christmas party at work (which I didn't go to) where apparently some colleagues asked her to talk to my DH to make me feel better. She said that she couldn't just do it on tap and the spirits came to her (which she has said before including the first day I met her when she first said she was a medium)

I saw her today and she said she had something to tell me in private. So we met up briefly in the backroom at work and she said that she had a message last night and she thinks it is for me from DH. I said I was sorry but I didn't want to talk about it. I then left the room. Every time she saw me in work she kept asking me to listen as she thinks this is her gift and it is her duty to tell me. Other people were also telling me to listen to her in case I regret it.

In the end I said fine just tell me quickly. She told me that he said he was in a better place, not to worry, he was watching over us and misses us. She then used a nickname that DH used to use for me when we started going out (pretty sure I have told her that before but she acted like it was new information he had told her) I told her to stop now as it was upsetting me. I also told her that I would rather she didn't do this to me again. She said what if DH wants to pass a message to me again.

Now I was really annoyed at this point so I told her that my DH knew I didn't believe in mediums so I doubt he would try to contact me through her as he would know that I wouldn't believe her. She said that she was telling the truth. I said that if she was telling the truth why didn't she use her gift to find missing children rather than charging people to look at old houses and coloured cards. (Bad I know but I was upset and fed up)

Obviously she was upset, she went around crying to everyone about me being mean to her.

Now a part of me does feel bad as she can be quite nice and she may even believe to some extent that she is a medium. But a bigger part of me is annoyed A. That she kept pushing and B. That she used DH like that.

So was she unreasonable for trying to make me listen. Or am I just the unreasonable bitch who should have been more understanding or just let her get on with it and ignored her.

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fishinabarrell · 16/01/2015 08:31

Yanbu she was grossly inappropriate and unprofessional, not to mention harassing. Your colleagues were also very inappropriate for asking in the first place.

I would make a complaint to your manager, this behaviour has no place in a work environment and even less so targeting someone bereaved

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Bartlebee · 16/01/2015 08:37

I'd be furious with this ridiculous woman. How dare she intrude on your grief.

'Mediums' are all charlatans or have mental health problems.

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skylark2 · 16/01/2015 08:38

"Other people were also telling me to listen to her in case I regret it."

But all she had to say were the sort of comforting platitudes that almost anyone might say without claiming they'd "spoken" with him. Why would you ever regret missing out on someone telling you that your DH was in a better place and watching over you?

If she genuinely thought she had an important message for you ("I buried £10000 of diamonds under the pink rosebush") then I might understand the reactions of the other people, but "I'm watching over you"? Many, many people believe that - they don't need to be told by a medium. Sheesh.

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Tinkerball · 16/01/2015 08:39

Yanbu, this is not something you should have to put up with at work under any circumstances. I to would put a complaint in, not to get this woman into trouble but to make her understand her harassment of you is unacceptable and to stop it happening again.

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fishinabarrell · 16/01/2015 08:40

Oh and do not feel bad op she is like any other extremist- willing to force her beliefs on others regardless of pain and disrespect.

In short, she is a knob.

Make sure you press the issue in writing by email to make it formal.

So sorry for your loss.

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AnnieLobeseder · 16/01/2015 08:47

Oh, OP, awful enough that you had to deal with that woman in your face and intruding on your grief even after you'd asked her to back off. But then other colleagues joined in too! Inexcusable and I really hope management take your complaint seriously. You have a right to be able to do your job without being harassed by this unhinged woman.

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Bumbiscuits · 16/01/2015 09:16

Talk to your HR department. The way that woman treated you was shocking. Forcing your beliefs on others at work must, must, must be misconduct. You might find though that some of the HR people have had readings from this woman and are stupid enough to believe her guff.

I also worked with a "psychic medium" once. All the ladies at work had a reading with him, including me Blush just being a sheep/nosey . He couldn't read me at all and waived the £40 charge. He also organised ghost walks. He told one colleague (and friend) who had cancer many years ago that it would return and she would die. That was 6 or 7 years ago and she's still fighting fit (ran a marathon last year).

Tangent but even though I don't believe I think I'd find a ghost walk, say in Edinburgh, quite interesting for the historical aspect.

This medium told me at work where he thought Madeliene McCann was Hmm and details of her "kidnap". I don't work with him any more and deleted him from my FB for some objectionable stuff he was posting on FB.

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QueenTilly · 16/01/2015 10:02

WTF!

I do not approve of physical violence, except in self-defence, but in this case I would be physically unable to condemn you if you had!

Your colleagues are little better- I have an uncomfortable feeling that asking this woman to give you messages and persuading you to listen was more about their own discomfort with your bereavement than true concern for you.

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TSSDNCOP · 16/01/2015 11:04

Absolutely no.

She's a grief tourist.

Take a list to work:

She has wasted work time with proselytism
She has violated your privacy and made it difficult for you to go about your work
She has, in attempting to garner support from colleagues, created a bullying environment which is impacting everyone's ability to do their jobs

I would except nothing less than a written warning for her and a general reminder for everyone that behaviour of this kind is intolerable in the work place.

I'm sorry for your terrible loss OP Flowers. This just isn't on.

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WooWooOwl · 16/01/2015 11:13

I'm sorry you lost your DH OP. Flowers

I lost my DH late last year as well, and I do believe that he's in a better place now. I also believe that occasionally we can receive messages from the other side.

But I honestly think that if someone I know had tried to tell me in the few months since my beautiful DH died that he was trying to send me a message through them, I'd probably slap them.

How fucking dare she??

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brokenhearted55a · 16/01/2015 11:23

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FlowerFairy2014 · 16/01/2015 11:28

Tell her she's a deluded utter nutter or just forget about it. She needs to know that this is all rubbish and she should not foist her views on others.

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Surreyblah · 16/01/2015 11:28

Agree with pps about talking to HR or if it's a small organisation your line manager, or using the grievance procedure. Disciplinary issue, as is her marketing her "business" (tours, readings) to work colleagues when at work. The colleagues who were gossiping and encouraging her should also be spoken to by managers/HR.

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Surreyblah · 16/01/2015 11:30

She should get a written warning at the very least!

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QuintlessShadows · 16/01/2015 11:33

That woman is an attention seeking vulture who wanted to feed on your grief to make herself important.

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seaoflove · 16/01/2015 11:33

She said that she was telling the truth. I said that if she was telling the truth why didn't she use her gift to find missing children rather than charging people to look at old houses and coloured cards. (Bad I know but I was upset and fed up)

Good for you.

How DARE she harrass you with this bullshit.

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CornChips · 16/01/2015 11:35

I like the word 'grief tourist' it fits perfectly with a person I know.

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Lilicat1013 · 16/01/2015 11:39

I am amazed you were so calm, what a horrible person.

I am open minded on mediums, I am open minded on most things but her behaviour was inappropriate regardless. You aren't offending her beliefs, she behaved appallingly.

If I truly believed I was a medium and truly believed I had a message to pass that would provide comfort to someone bereaved I would write the message, hand it to them in a sealed envelope, explain as briefly as possible and say it was there if they would find it comforting or helpful. Then never, ever mention it again unless they brought it up first.

I wouldn't be trying to get in to contact at Christmas parties or harassing someone who had already made their view point perfectly clear. She can say she is trying to be comforting or helpful all she likes, her behaviour makes it clear she isn't. It is all about her and the attention she is getting from this.

Also, I'm sorry for you loss.

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diddl · 16/01/2015 11:39

"She said that she was telling the truth."

What truth?

The crap she came out with that anyone could say to you??

The fact is that she carried on after you said no, and that other colleagues bullied you into listening to her.

So she was upset when you didn't want to hear, boo dee bloody hoo.

You can't be the first person who didn't want to hear it-if you did, you would have asked her by now!

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duckwalk · 16/01/2015 11:41

Has your supervisor got back to you today?

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UptheChimney · 16/01/2015 11:52

Oh OP I can imagine a bit of how you must be feeling. I lost my DH suddenly, a long time ago now (my son's pretty much a grown up how did that happen?) but I can remember the intense desperation you can feel at wanting to have contact, any contact, even when you know logically that it's impossible Flowers

I was desperately grieving but I'm also not stupid. I knew he was dead. Somehow, for me, it helped to be very businesslike about that, but I was brought up with an iron stiff upper lip.

I had a couple of people try the medium thing or the god thing on me. I walked away. I was polite. I now sometimes wish I'd really told them what I thought of them. People like your colleague are basically evil & narcissistic, feeding off your grief and making themselves feel important. I came to despise one who persistently tried this on me, as having such a petty little life which is why she had to make a drama out of mine. Not nice to admit that I thought that way, but that's how I fended off that emotional vampire.

Tell her to eff off. And make a complaint to your boss or HR. You shouldn't have to deal with this at work (but I know I turned into a bit of a workaholic as a way of blocking out desperation when there was little else I could do).

It will pass. It does get better.

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expatinscotland · 16/01/2015 12:00

What a bitch! Yeah, I would have complained to her manager. Crock of shite, too.

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ICantDecideOnAUsername · 16/01/2015 12:06

Firstly, I'm so sorry for your loss and all the PPs who've lost someone too.

I absolutely think YANBU and she was the U one (especially expecting sympathy)

But just to play devil's avocado for a mo. Is it just possible that she saw you grieving and thought she could help make you feel better through, what she believed, was a supportive message from your dh? Of course., even if she thought she could help, and honestly believed that she had a message from your dh (I do not believe in mediums btw but I believe that other people 'believe' it, whether its true or not), she was completely U not to listen to you and to run crying to colleagues, who were equally U for encouraging her. You are grieving from your loss and they played with that. You don't say when you lost you dh, is it worth asking for more compassionate time off?

What happened with her talking to?

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MrsHathaway · 16/01/2015 12:13

OP, I'm so sorry for your loss. I initially avoided this thread because I didn't want to read that you even slightly believed her.

I am so impressed with your response and handling of the whole affair. Well done! You've stuck up not only for yourself but for potentially vulnerable colleagues. Her behaviour is absolutely unacceptable and she needs telling. I'm also so glad your superiors are handling it correctly.

I don't believe in medium-ing. But I can tell you with the greatest certainty that if your DH could get you a message he would be sending a Fucking Massive High Five.

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MrsHathaway · 16/01/2015 12:16

He told one colleague (and friend) who had cancer many years ago that it would return and she would die.

In forty-five years when she dies quietly in her sleep he will claim a successful reading. Hmm

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