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Rita ora is fab on the voice a great role model, should I correct other mums

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amispoilt · 13/01/2015 09:45

I don't get the hate this girl is getting. She's escaped from a country at war, came to the uk as a pennyless immigrant and built herself up to be a multi millionaire and one of the most successful British female artisits of all time (most no 1s) and works a lot in the fashion and pr world.

Some other mums were bitching about her, aibu to stick up for her?

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MissPenelopeLumawoo2 · 13/01/2015 12:58

Are you her agent, OP? You seem massively over-invested in her life.

ZenNudist · 13/01/2015 13:11

Haha at 'correct'.

Don't like her music, hate her clothes ( but I am out of touch so this just reflects badly on me)

I don't think she's a great role model and I hate the X factor type culture which puts these people as 'role models'. She has done little of true value or merit.

I must confess I immediately thought of the jay z rumour as to how she got a break in the industry, but that just shoes how ingrained misogyny is in our media that such a rumour about a woman is prevalent and you never hear similar said about a man.

TheChandler · 13/01/2015 13:17

amispoilt Don't think he's that tallented, all of his songs follow the same predictable pattern. Panders to the masses with low quality. At least all of Rita's singles have been very different.

Apart from the ones he wrote for her and she was hoping to release before he insisted on his copyright? And don't most pop melodies follow similar patterns?

Yes of course - Rita Ora, that quality musician, with many examples of quality work in an industry where sheer quality is feted! Her singles have all been so different, I can't remember any of them. Whereas I can recall at least three of Calvin Harris's.

BreakingDad77 · 13/01/2015 13:28

I ummed and rrred posting 'what a feminist looks like' under the article in metro with her boobs out on the One show.

MorrisZapp · 13/01/2015 13:37

Don't know her but lol at providing evidence that she shagged Jay Z :)

M'lud, I give you this blurry photograph and a stained gstring.

Stinkle · 13/01/2015 13:40

Yes of course - Rita Ora, that quality musician, with many examples of quality work in an industry where sheer quality is feted! Her singles have all been so different, I can't remember any of them. Whereas I can recall at least three of Calvin Harris's.

YY!

I saw Calvin Harris at a festival last summer. I was surprised to find that I knew everything he played.

Rita Ora - I've just looked her up on Spotify - I know 1

You can disagree with the other mums, but 'correcting' them? I don't have a strong opinion on her really but I don't think she has any real talent or a role model - shes a pop star. And not a very good one at that

NoImSpartacus · 13/01/2015 13:47

and one of the most successful British female artists of all time (most no 1s)

^ fuck that makes me depressed, RO is shit.

Sometimes I despair of the British public.

CrispyFern · 13/01/2015 13:58

Rita is a nice name isn't it?

Do you think it is due a comeback?

Stinkle · 13/01/2015 14:00

Sometimes I despair of the British public.

Especially when you consider she shares the top spot with Geri Halliwell and Cheryl Shock

NotYouNaanBread · 13/01/2015 14:01

I like one or two of her songs. She is not a role model. I want my daughters to aspire to successful careers that are in no way predicated on how often they are willing to display their breasts in public.

The Jay-Z rumours have been going around for a while, also re. him and Rihanna. Obv. we don't know if they are true or not, but lots of men seem to be able to have working relationships with women without rumours flying around about them. I think it says more about Jay-Z (a married man in his mid-forties, an established professional with a lot of influence) than the much younger women he is supposed to be shagging into prominence. He ought to be capable of preventing such rumours from springing up if there is no foundation to them.

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amispoilt · 13/01/2015 14:03

*Apart from the ones he wrote for her and she was hoping to release before he insisted on his copyright? And don't most pop melodies follow similar patterns?

Yes of course - Rita Ora, that quality musician, with many examples of quality work in an industry where sheer quality is feted! Her singles have all been so different, I can't remember any of them. Whereas I can recall at least three of Calvin Harris's.*

I've got pretty bored of CH, got all his albums but the last one just sounds so similar. Every song apart from one slow one follows the exact same pattern. There's something to be said for having your own style, there is another thing when all your songs begin to sound the same.

This thread is just showing misogynist views are alive and kicking here. If some fit guy wore a low vneck and you could see the side of his pec no one would care.

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fishinabarrell · 13/01/2015 14:05

Yanbu to think she's good that's your opinion. Yabu to correct people, you give your opinion but it's not a fact.

GraysAnalogy · 13/01/2015 14:06

I ummed and rrred posting 'what a feminist looks like' under the article in metro with her boobs out on the One show

Why, do feminists have to be covered up?

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amispoilt · 13/01/2015 14:09

Would you like all femisits to wear bin bags?

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NotYouNaanBread · 13/01/2015 14:13

"This thread is just showing misogynist views are alive and kicking here. If some fit guy wore a low vneck and you could see the side of his pec no one would care."

The point is that men don't HAVE to display their bodies to get column inches. A female pop star will get far more coverage if she wears next to nothing as often as possible. Even though we may roll our eyes at the Sidebar of Shame, that's where aspiring and current pop stars get a lot of their exposure. This is NOT the case for male stars. It's not just the "fault" of the women in question - the attitude of the gutter media forces them into that position.

Women who don't participate are unrecognised. Can you picture Sia's face? Have you ever seen her breasts in the Daily Mail? No - despite her hundreds of millions of Youtube views, she is never featured in the columns because she is a) fully clothed and b) nearly 40.

ghostyslovesheep · 13/01/2015 14:14

Badgers have a nasty bite and spread tb the fuckers

NotYouNaanBread · 13/01/2015 14:14

Taylor Swift being the obvious exception though, I think.

fishinabarrell · 13/01/2015 14:19

I wouldn't find her a role model, couldn't give a shiny shit about her clothes I just think there's nothing she's done that makes me think she should be. She's okay just nothing special imo in regards to role models and I think popstars and actors are often thought to be role models when they dont do anything to really deserve the adulation. It's just that they are rich and famous.

In regard to clothing, jot a shiny shit I give about her. The only 'star' I've found vomit worth was chris brown gyrating in a round stage half dressed- arrogance and ego obvious even pre-rihanna abuse.

Just debate with them if you.disagree. Dont expect them to change their minds any more then you would.

GraysAnalogy · 13/01/2015 14:20

NotYou Sia does that purposely. She decided not to publicizs her image and decided to have the 'blonde bob' as her sort of iconic image. Nothing to do with her age and what she wears.

GraysAnalogy · 13/01/2015 14:21

publicise. And her reasoning behind this was because she was originally due to retire and didn't want to be a celebrity.

BreakingDad77 · 13/01/2015 14:22

Fishinabarrel amispoilt

This is specifically the one show, surely women should not have to continue to play up to the male patriarchy of getting baps out in 2015. Doesn't she want to be taken seriously as an artist not a pair of boobs that makes a nice sound?

GraysAnalogy · 13/01/2015 14:24

Sorry didn't realise you can't be taken seriously if your boobs showing.
Must remember that.

Must also remember that if I want to wear a top that shows my boobs I'm playing up to the patriarchy.

Thanks, again for not being able to win in 2000 and fucking 15.

NotYouNaanBread · 13/01/2015 14:28

GraysAnalogy I think I expressed myself badly there. I know it's intentional on her part, but I still think it's interesting that she takes that sort of control and still sells records. She is proof that it is possible to have a successful music career without with sideboob effect (when did that even become a THING?). That said, she's been at it for a long time. I didn't know that she was planning to retire.

I'm very late to find out about Sia, but I've been listening to her non stop for the last few weeks.

CuntWagon · 13/01/2015 14:29

Rita Ora's mum is a psychiatrist. Hardly a poverty stricken childhood.

GraysAnalogy · 13/01/2015 14:29

I do love sia her voice is fabulous.