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To not want to let her have our house?

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Ladybird20 · 08/01/2015 11:57

The house is rented. We love it. lovely area, lovely neighbours, nice walks near by, lovely pub within walking distance.

We've only been here for about 6 months but as soon as we moved in we instantly felt settled. We're so happy here.

DH's exW has just split up with her BF, he's temporarily moved in with his Mum whilst she finds somewhere to live. She moved the children to live with him (about an hour away) so they moved school etc. They'd only been together 5 minutes so tbh this split was always pretty inevitable (she doesn't have a great track record!).

So now she's trying to find somewhere to live and is struggling. Her old employer has given her a job so she wants to come back to this area. Which is great as far as the 2 DC are concerned, it will mean contact with DH will be much easier and they can start midweek contact again. Excellent.

So on Sunday she picked the kids up from our house and saw that one of the houses on our Avenue is up to let. She said ''oooo wouldn't that be lovely if the children could live across the road from their Dad?'' Although I don't fancy the ex being so close, I do agree it would be wonderful for the children.
Anyway, DH said ''it would but it's really overpriced, it's £200pcm more than this one, it's got an extension but I don't think it's worth the extra money''.
It was left at that.

Then on Tuesday DH got an email asking if he would let her and the children move in to our house and we move in to the one down the road.
We thought she was having a laugh. She wasn't.

DH has said that there are plenty of other houses in the area and we will do anything we can to help with the move, but to ask us to move house is just totally unreasonable.

Her arguments are: DSS (9) has behavioural problems and she thinks living near DH will really help him. She can't afford the bigger, more expensive house but we can (we can't). She wants the DC to go to the school which we live on the door step of, it is an excellent school and she thinks it will suit DSS better because it's small. However, she doesn't have a chance of getting in there as it's so over subscribed, even people who live a few streets away can't get in. When we moved I didn't even bother trying to get my DS in to the school as I know there's no chance.

She's turned really nasty now saying thinks like ''you're a selfish prick, you only think about her and her kids'' (my kids are also HIS kids). And ''you have a responsibility to provide all your children with the same standard of living''. DH's response to that was ''they can come and live with us then''.

But she does this kind of thing, once she's decided that she wants something she won't give in until she gets it and she actually convinces herself that she's being totally reasonable and anybody who dares to disagree with her is a bastard.

She did something similar years ago. When they first split up she moved in to a council house (her choice, she didn't want the marital home). After a couple of years she decided she needed the marital home and asked DH to swap houses. He didn't want her house but we were at a point in our relationship where we were considering moving in together so he moved in to my house and let her have the marital home. Since then the house has been sold.
But I can see in her eyes, she got what she wanted previously, so she should be able to do it again.

And even if we did agree to her having this house, there's no guarantee that the landlord would agree to it.

I do suspect that part of the reason for doing this is because she'll struggle getting somewhere in her name. She has bad credit. DH got declined for credit a few months ago and when we checked his credit report there was something on there from her, some debts had been taken over by a debt management company and it was showing on his credit file because they were still financially linked on there. That's all been rectified now.
There's no chance that we can risk her living in a house that we're financially liable for. We had all that when she was living in the marital home, she sometimes wouldn't pay her half of the mortgage so DH would have to pay it all.

Sorry this has turned out to be a bit of an essay, didn't want to drip feed.

Please tell me I'm not being unreasonable.

DH pays more than minimum child maintenance, she is in a very well paid job and earns about the same as DH and I do jointly. Yes DH wants to make sure his DC are in a decent house and we genuinely will help her with a deposit and the actual house move if she needs it. But this is just too much isn't it?

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Icimoi · 08/01/2015 12:22

Spell it out to her very very clearly that it is NOT your decision, it is the landlord's. And that the landlord will not let to someone with her credit history. And that living in your house will not make one iota of difference in relation to the school, if it is oversubscribed the children will not get in.

Ladybird20 · 08/01/2015 12:22

There are loads of houses in the area but no others on our estate.
But within a mile radius of our house there's probably about 20 suitable houses.

I think it's jealously. When she was with DH she wanted to live on this estate but they couldn't afford it. It is very nice and very desirable, we couldn't believe our luck when we found this house. We were the first to view it and we snapped it straight up.
I think she's probably looked around and seen what else she can get for the same price and decided that no, she'd rather have ours and will make every effort to get it. And when she doesn't get it she'll just pull the ''but it's what's best for the kids'' card out of the bag.

I've seen it a million times before, usually over lesser things though.

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gamerchick · 08/01/2015 12:23

Well your husband seems to be handling it pretty well. Telling her they can come live with him then was perfect Grin

You can predict what comes next so maybe take steps re contact soon.

Floggingmolly · 08/01/2015 12:25

She must have the brainpower of a flea. If it's so essential for her ds to live in the same road as his Dad; how can she possibly justify moving him an hours drive away (where he'd still be if she was still with lover boy?)
Why don't you make her try to explain this?????

TheFutureMrsB · 08/01/2015 12:27

I think now is where a very firm NO comes in handy! She's a cheeky bitch though!

ShockHmm

Ladybird20 · 08/01/2015 12:30

apprenticeviper no there's no court order in place over contact. We started legal proceedings a few years ago when she had stopped contact previously but then DH gave in they managed to resolve their differences before it got to court.

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quietbatperson · 08/01/2015 12:33

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TheFutureMrsB · 08/01/2015 12:33

Ladybird she sounds like a nightmare!

I think you are going to have to be the one to tell her fuck off NO. Maybe that way she will take the answer seriously straight away so it doesn't get into a big fight over contact. She must be such hard work Confused

Tinkerball · 08/01/2015 12:34

Yanbu! Regardless of what she thinks, wants, expects etc don't move. If as you suspect she will then use their children as weapons and restrict contact you need to get a lawyer. Does your DH have a court order regarding current contact?

Tinkerball · 08/01/2015 12:35

Cross posted Smile

Viviennemary · 08/01/2015 12:35

Of course you shouldn't give her your house. It's out of the question. She should find her own house. What a cheek!!

Ladybird20 · 08/01/2015 12:37

floggingmolly when she was moving the DSC she told DH that it was so much nicer in that area, apparently it was a better way of life.
I won't go in to detail of where they were living, I don't want to risk offending anybody, but lets just say that she had moved them from a fairly decent area to a less decent area. From a fairly nice house to accommodation which seemed less nice. But in her mind, she was doing it all for the good of the children.

In all seriousness I do wonder sometimes if she has some kind of personality disorder, it's worrying that she totally lacks the ability to reason with people, to see any other point of view or to see that she's being unreasonable. She's so sure in everything she says and thinks, it sometimes makes me doubt that I'm in the right.

She falls out with friends and family on a weekly basis because if anybody dares disagree with anything she says she just cuts them out of her life.

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Cocolepew · 08/01/2015 12:39

I wouldn't even try to reason with her. Just not talk about it .
She's a one isn't she Hmm

Cocolepew · 08/01/2015 12:39

I wouldn't even try to reason with her. Just not talk about it .
She's a one isn't she Hmm

MidniteScribbler · 08/01/2015 12:42

She sounds batshit crazy.

AmantesSuntAmentes · 08/01/2015 12:46

YAVVNBU!!
She's behaving diabolically. It's an insane demand! Now she's having an adult tantrum?! Confused
Don't give an inch!

susiedaisy · 08/01/2015 12:48

Yanbu. And you don't have to justify your reasons to her.

AmantesSuntAmentes · 08/01/2015 12:49

quietbatperson @ 12.33 Absolutely agree with the suggested tactical preemptive measures!

katrina81 · 08/01/2015 12:51

Crikey no way!, she is bonkers, just say you signed a long tenancy, in fact just say no is a complete sentence.

fuzzpig · 08/01/2015 12:51

Yep, batshit crazy.

Anyway, you can't afford to move into this other house. There's no getting round that, so you just need to keep repeating it. Hopefully.

JustAnotherControlFreak · 08/01/2015 12:55

YADNBU she needs to get a grip and stop playing the affected damsel. argghh. angry on your behalf op

MrsTawdry · 08/01/2015 12:56

She is a nutflap.

Just keep refusing. Maybe DH or you could find another house similar and close to you to appease her.

Ladybird20 · 08/01/2015 12:58

Our landlord is lovely and we do get on so might speak to her about it. Although I'm not sure that there's any way the ex could find out who the landlord is, is there?

Think we'll just ignore the ex, if she starts restricting contact again I'm sure it won't last for long as she'll soon need us for something, especially now she doesn't have her boyfriend or his family to help any more.

It's just a shame there's two little people getting caught up in the middle of the drama of a life that she creates.

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Trooperslane · 08/01/2015 12:59

Nut job.

The less you see of her the better.

She's her own problem now.

(Please tell me you're making this up?)

And also legally you can't sub let your house. You don't make the rules, op

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Flimflammer · 08/01/2015 13:03

Is it possible for someone to tell her to fuck off?