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Just gave away a puppy (new owner did not pay)

303 replies

maggieandannie · 26/12/2014 11:15

My shitz-zu had a beautiful litter, the puppies are shitz-zu schnauzer crosses. I have found all of them great homes, I did not advertise it was through friends and people through work. So I have a link to each and every pup!

I know a lovely lady from dog walking, and since my dog was pregnant she let me know her sister would love one.

I reserved a boy for her sister and when puppies were 4 weeks old she picked her little boy. Her sister asked was I charging and I said yes I am charging and would offer her sister a discount so pup would be £100.00; told me she would let her sister know.

Fast forward to yesterday she picked up her puppy and left me a present, a gorgeous box and inside of the box was a bottle of very expenisive gin/soda and a lemon and a card. I thought how nice what a lovely lady! I opened the card and there was no payment.

I want to send her sister a text, letting her know how grateful I am for the present (I did include a puppy pack for this lady, with blanket, teddy, vet details, groomer details, and a bottle of Prosecco), however I was charging.

Would I be unreasonable asking for my money, I feel embarrassed to have to ask her.

Please help

OP posts:

VeganCow · 27/12/2014 13:09

pups cannot be hip scored under the bva until they are 12 months of age

yes, breeders usually pay to have the mother/father hip scored, to give peace of mind to potential owners.

PiperIsTerrysChoclateOrange · 27/12/2014 13:38

I would get a male kitten next time.

Booboostoo · 27/12/2014 13:44

For anyone looking for pups and reading this thread please do not buy a pup from anyone who has bred without health screenings for both the bitch and the dog and has the paper work to prove it. Look up the common problems with your chosen breed (or breeds if you really must) and make sure your puppy won't inherit them by seeing evidence that the breeder has screened the parents for all the conditions. There is nothing worse than nursing your beloved pet through a painful, debilitating illness and an untimely death, all of which could have been avoided if the breeder had not been irresponsible, self-serving and just down right silly.

Vivacia · 27/12/2014 14:03

Piper I'm guessing that it was the anaesthetic that was the problem? That's always going to be a risk, and it will be a risk for when a male kitten gets neutered too unfortunately.

tipsytrifle · 27/12/2014 14:30

Piper - so sorry about your gorgeous kitten. It's rare for that to happen I believe. If you get a male kit you should still neuter. Otherwise you are going to be helping to create a problem by way of kittens elsewhere. Plus he would stray when that special scent gets activated in the air.

It has taken me 2yrs to sort out a colony that evolved as they were abandoned for pregnancy, house moves and whatever. Males came from miles around to continue impregnating. And fighting. Injuries were horrific at times. Vet bills were extensive but, due to a sympathetic vet, not as extortionate as normal.

I have now got 10 cats (unfit for rehoming and now beloved my moi), have rehomed 8 (2 died just after their last pregnancies), cared for and rehomed 3 litters, grieved for 3 dead litters (inbreeding causes awful problems and deformities, then there was cat flu). Many other kits were born that year but I couldn't catch them all and they have now vanished. All those babies. Gone.

I also took a young abandoned FIV male to Somerset (200 mile journey) to be rehomed at a specialist centre where he continues to do well. He was dying on his paws when I took him in. Everyone knew him and his old name but still he was left to it despite having been a pet.

I was lucky enough to find and team up with another one-woman charity and we worked together. All this because people will not neuter. In my block alone, had I done nothing but ignore, there would have been 50 plus cats roaming feral and a growing FIV problem. All from a few unwanteds and roaming males.

Sorry for the ramble. I know you m4ean no harm Piper. But please, if you get an animal that is going to access outdoors then neuter. If you get a kitten to keep in then you should probably get two.

toboldlygo · 27/12/2014 14:46

Booboos it's all falling on deaf ears I'm afraid. I was back at work today in time for the influx of sickly new Christmas puppies - parvo, lepto, hypoglycemia, seizures, heart murmurs, hernias, lethal heart defects, D&V, dehydration, collapse, conjunctivitis, anaemia, fleas and worms... and these are just the immediate illnesses, in the months to come we'll see the heritable conditions start to show.

Most of these came from Welsh puppy farms, the owners had no idea but all the hallmarks were there.

tipsytrifle · 27/12/2014 14:53

omg toboldlygo ... that's like tearing the heart out of you with every appt I imagine

RudeBarbandCustard · 27/12/2014 15:41

Glad to hear the OP has had her dilemma sorted.

On the subject of purebred pups - I bought my beloved boy as a pup from an 'accidental' litter, both parents were pedigree GSDs. He had a severe birth defect, which was undetected until he was about 7 months old, and could easily have killed him.

He is now in the grips of debilitating degenerative myelopathy, at the early age of 9 yrs. I love him dearly, and it is breaking my heart on a daily basis watching his legs waste away.

Much as I love that breed, and thoroughly loved having him as a puppy, I have now decided that once my beloved boy goes, I will only take in rescue dogs. I will have a home and heart with space for a dog, and there are many dogs already born, sitting in cold kennels waiting to be loved.

But each to their own

LoathsomeDrab · 27/12/2014 15:47

As a follow on to Booboostoo's post, this website is excellent for researching what health tests should be done before dogs are bred from regardless of whether they're being used to breed pedigrees or crosses. It also lists the heritable health conditions known within each breed for which there currently are no tests.

Ujjayi · 27/12/2014 16:53

Has the OP updated? Has she received payment yet? I've scrolled through but cannot see a response.

Original poster

maggieandannie · 27/12/2014 17:07

I did all sorted thanks and as few pages back. This thread has gone wildly off topic.

OP posts:

Ujjayi · 27/12/2014 17:24

Thanks OP. Glad you got it sorted & trust no ill feeling between yourself & new pup owner.

ToffeeCaramel · 27/12/2014 18:15

Has the new owner actually paid yet though? I find it hard to believe her sister would have somehow given the impression you were giving the dogs away free and not mentioned you were charging £100

youareallbonkers · 27/12/2014 18:35

Designer cross breed???? It's a mongrel of which there are far too many already.

YesIDidMeanToBeSoRudeActually · 27/12/2014 18:42

Well I am a cynical old witch, but OP, all your posts seem to have been timed and worded in a way to cause maximum frothing, plus you have contradicted yourself on some important posts.

I personally think you're either on a bit of a wind up or you're covering stuff up. Either way, you sound very irresponsible.

VetNurse · 27/12/2014 19:14

Is the puppy you have kept male? The next story will be my dogs son has just mated with her by accident! Get them neutered!!!

LividofLondon · 27/12/2014 19:55

Maggie, I realise you loved the experience but please reconsider letting your bitch have another litter. Every person who has one of your pups is potentially one less who might adopt a pup from a rescue centre. Those unwanted pups really deserve a chance of a home don't you think? Personally I think those already born should be given the maximum chance of finding a good home rather than spending their days in kennels.

SuburbanReindeer · 27/12/2014 22:14

Btw, OP, it's Shih-Tzu.

Just sayin'.

HoHonutty · 27/12/2014 22:22

My dad took me to a zoo once. It only had one animal in it. It was a dog. It was a Shih-Tzu.

the old ones are the best ones

iwishiwasacat · 27/12/2014 23:04

This post made me do some googling and has really opened my eyes to the horrors of backyard breeding, puppy farms and dog pounds. I had no idea it was all so horrific.

Thunderbolt · 27/12/2014 23:13

People will exploit anything for money, even their beloved pets.

Floralnomad · 27/12/2014 23:13

iwish and that's before you add in all the underage pups being smuggled in from Europe - all very sad .

iwishiwasacat · 27/12/2014 23:17

Am reading about that now. God, it's all so dreadful.

judydoes · 27/12/2014 23:23

What midori said. Sorry OP, I agree she should have paid you though.

I spend a lot of my life rehoming mistreated/neglected dogs. Irresponsible breeding is the cause. I'd think twice about this-if you truly 'love dogs' why not become a rescuer of unwanted bitches and puppies or help to rehome the thousands of dogs that need it-become a foster carer.

tawnyowlsrock · 27/12/2014 23:33

I know op posted in Aibu
She wasn't asking about breeding
She was concerned that she hadn't received money for a puppy
Vets bills need to be covered
Glad u got it sorted op

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