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to feel that I can't bear to stay, but can't bear to leave because it would hurt our DS?

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NeutronBombe · 23/12/2014 10:08

My partner and I haven't exchanged a kind word in a year. We don't sleep together any more, we don't socialise together unless we have to. At this point we are just enemies who have a kid together.

My partner is bitterly jealous of anyone I or our DS become friendly with, and although there's no violence within our family, we are subject to emotional abuse, withholding affection, horrible accusations and verbal bullying unless everything goes the right way.

Once, in front of our DS who was five at the time and old enough to understand, I was threatened with murder. Not just "I could murder you" in a joking way, in case that's what you're thinking. More like "If I could get away with it I'd stab you to death". That's just one example.

When things go wrong we get days of abuse, but when I say that this behaviour is abusive and unacceptable, I just get told "You need to forgive and forget", and "you make too much of these things" and "it was just that one time".

We get bullied like this: if I do something which upsets my partner, then DS can't go somewhere or do something he really wants, because that's the best way to hurt both of us.

I have no social life and few friends because my partner gets so upset if I'm out in the evenings. On the rare occasions I do go out (work Xmas party which I was really obliged to go to) I am bombarded by text messages asking when I'll be home.

But all of that I'm used to. I'm resigned to it. I love my son and I was resigned to the idea that I, personally, wouldn't have a happy life for the next ten years or so (until he goes to university).

But I came here to tell you about an incident that has made me reconsider staying together for the sake of our child.

Our son has a best friend, we'll call her Kate, but he can only see her in school because my partner has come to hate her parents for various reasons that come down to paranoia and/or jealousy. One weekend I dared take him over to their house for a party. I insisted, against my partner's wishes. We were bombarded with messages the whole time we were there. What time are you coming home? You said you'd be home by now! (at the time we said we'd leave, not the time was said we'd be home). And when we got home we had a terrible row.

The atmosphere continued to be horrible for the next two days just because we'd been to Kate's. "Why did you go? I hate [Kate's mum and dad]!". "Just because you hate them, doesn't mean we have to hate them! Kate's nine years old, do you hate her too?" "Yes!" And then on the third day I get a call from the hospital. My partner had got into an altercation outside the school gates and with Kate's parents. And thrown a punch. My partner had to be physically restrained by other parents, with our son and Kate's three-year-old sister crying. There were twenty witnesses, and every one of them says my partner started it. There's no grey area here. One of the people defended themselves with an umbrella and my partner was bleeding profusely. There was a trail of blood visible in the street. My partner nearly lost a finger, and had to have surgery and stay overnight in hospital. The first time my child ever had to go a night without both his parents at home.

I had to placate the other family and convince them not to take legal action.

After this incident, I told my partner I couldn't take it any more. I remember yelling "you could have been arrested, you could have been gone to jail!".

I said I felt we had to break up. And that prompted some repentance, at least on the surface. We agreed that my partner would go to anger management/therapy.

But almost straight away, the process was undermined.

The first therapist sent my partner home with a note saying they couldn't continue treatment for ethical reasons. Because when asked "why are you here?" the therapist just got a shrug and "I dunno, my partner is making me come". Then we found another. There was one session. Then that therapist moved offices and it was "too difficult to get there on public transport". Then there was another, who managed one session, then apparently said to call back in December. And when called back in December, was on holiday. I don't believe a word of this, honestly.

The thing is, this assault happened in April.

The christmas/new year season has made me remember that we had a deal. And it got broken, not overtly but with lots of little betrayals, over the better part of this whole year.

If I didn't have a child, I would happily never see this person again. I would start my life all over again in an empty room with a mattress on the floor and be happy. This person is a stranger to me. A hateful stranger. But on the other hand we both love our child and I want him to have a stable life. But on the other other hand, what messages are we sending him about relationships? I feel like it's a terrible, insoluble puzzle. Can't bear to leave, but I will never be happy if I stay. But to stay is to give in to the abusive behaviour and teach my child that that's an acceptable way to live your life.

OP posts:
Dipankrispaneven · 23/12/2014 10:48

Are you worried that you wouldn't be able to get custody of your son? If so, you need to think about what evidence there is that your partner is an unfit parent, as it certainly sounds as if she has serious anger management and control issues.

Hatespiders · 23/12/2014 10:49

I'm very sorry indeed you're going through this, and have been for some time. It must be grinding you down terribly.

Firstly, it was a mistake to intervene after the assault at the school gates. It would have been far better for him to feel the full force of the Law and take the consequences of his aggressive actions. I'm surprised the victims/s agreed not to proceed; I certainly wouldn't have agreed, I'd have made a statement to the Police, and there were after all 20 witnesses.

Secondly, you know only too well that you must get away, and as soon as possible. This man is evil, nasty and dangerous. I can't for the life of me see what he has to offer your son. I should think the poor lad is in hell living like this, and so are you.

I feel Women's Aid might be a first port of call. And family/friends for support.

But the most important thing is not to decide to stay with this monster 'for the sake of your son'. It's damaging him irrevocably and it must stop. Please separate, and as soon as you can.

Dipankrispaneven · 23/12/2014 10:49

People, I really think OP is male, so Women's Aid is probably not the most appropriate place to refer him to.

RandomMess · 23/12/2014 10:49

You need to run for the hills - believe me that is not a happy life for your son at any level.

CassieBearRawr · 23/12/2014 10:49

Oh yeah, I never spotted the partner thing. Funny how your biases just fill in the blanks.

Whether the partner is male or female, and whatever gender the OP is the partner is an abusive, violent person and the OP needs to remove themselves - or the partner, whichever is easier - from the situation.

londonrach · 23/12/2014 10:51

Not stable. Leave now before something more serious happens. Contact woman refuse or can you stay at a friends. Not the idea time of the year but lifes like that. Hope you ok x

YouTheCat · 23/12/2014 10:51

Women's Aid help men too.

BlinkingHeck · 23/12/2014 10:51

Your son will be hurt more by staying with your abusive partner.

CassieBearRawr · 23/12/2014 10:52

@Dipankrispaneven - You could suggest directing him towards ManKind instead then - www.mankind.org.uk/ (if the OP is indeed male).

londonrach · 23/12/2014 10:52

Just seen the others comments. Is there a mens aid? If not why not?

Number3cometome · 23/12/2014 10:53

I've posted before about my situation and I will post again.

I left my violent ex partner in November 2013. He wasn't violent to my children, but again, he played childish mind bullying games with them.

It took a psychologist to tell me that I was going to end up a mental mess if I did not leave him. The next day, I packed 2 suitcases, called the police, the school and social services, grabbed my children and left him.

When I first left, my children were angry with me. They had this illusion in their head that their Dad was this wonderful man and he was only mean because 'I made him like that'. That's what 13 years of letting someone walk all over you will do - and at the moment you are allowing him to do this to you and your son.

I am now expecting DC3 with my new partner, I never in a million years thought I would be this happy. My children no longer live in fear, they tell people how happy they are, my son has completely changed, he was very introverted before but now is confident and HAPPY.

There is not a day that goes by that I don't think what a fool I was to stay for so long. Once I left that house I left behind every fear I ever had living with him.

I am absolutely a changed person, I just feel slightly silly that it took me so long to realise it.

LIFE IS TOO SHORT - if you cannot do it for yourself, do it for your child, or he will grow up like his Dad.

Aeroflotgirl · 23/12/2014 10:56

Why did you convince Kate's parents not to take legal action, tgat could have been your lifeline. I echo others, you are doing your ds severe harm staying with this person, he could even hurt you physically even fatally, if he lashes out at somebody outside like that.

Fudgeface123 · 23/12/2014 10:57

if I do something which upsets my partner, then DS can't go somewhere or do something he really wants, because that's the best way to hurt both of us

This is not the behaviour of a dad who loves his son

Aeroflotgirl · 23/12/2014 10:58

It would have been good if he went to jail, it would have given you time to leave or sort out your life.

championnibbler · 23/12/2014 11:00

Leave.

mrssmith79 · 23/12/2014 11:00

Think back to an event, any event, that happened ten years ago. Try and remember anything that's happened inbetween then and now, could be anything - birthdays, holidays, rows, new jobs. Now take a few minutes to process how long that period of time was and how much of your life the last decade has taken up. Now imagine having to endure another period of time, that same length, in your current situation. Looking forward to it? Imagine where you COULD be in ten years time if you break free right now.
Flowers

NewEraNewMindset · 23/12/2014 11:08

Your son has one childhood. This special time when he should be being nurtured and see kindness and love in his primary relationships is instead destroying his innocence and potentially damaging him for the future.

Your partner sounds mentally unwell to me, and whilst I am not one to shout LTB in this case I think you should.

Starlightbright1 · 23/12/2014 11:12

I can only say I left my abusive partner when my DS was 10 months. I can say despite him been so young he actually relaxed so much more and was immediately more content.. Your Ds is not able to develop his friendships normally and will be damaged if he isn't out of this arrangement.

I assume from your OP your partner is female.. My advise your child should not be living with them is the same however If you are male I would seriously consider legal advise to get this right...

Number3cometome · 23/12/2014 11:14

I would be very concerned that your partner was fighting outside the school gates. This suggests to me they are infact violent, and you may well be their next target should things not be going their way.

Male or female, they need help - and you cannot help them.

Leave.

Aeroflotgirl · 23/12/2014 11:17

You can start tgat new life with your ds. Staying together especially in situations like yours, isent always the best.

BarbarianMum · 23/12/2014 11:19

^^This.

If you can't yet, or choose not to, leave what is an abusive relationship then please do not believe that you are "staying for your child." He is not benefitting, he is being damaged. He does not have to feel responsible for your choices, or be "grateful" for them later in life.

EhricJinglingHisBallsOnHigh · 23/12/2014 11:20

Why the hell do you think that staying with a father who subjects him to cruel emotional abuse is better for him than a life with you who doesn't?
Who gave you that stupid idea?

SamiBE · 23/12/2014 11:30

My ex was controlling about me going out and used to txt/call all the time when I was out, even calling my friends :(
I stayed with him till I couldn't bare it any more. I didn't want to break up my family unit as my parents divorced when I was young and it affected me badly.
My kids witnessed constant argueing which isn't good. The day after I ended things with him our DD (age 3 at the time) started to sleep through the night after 2 and a half years of waking between 3 and 20 times a night. That's when I knew I had done the best thing.
You're stronger than you think please thing of your DS XX

LongDistanceLove · 23/12/2014 11:33

I agree with previous posters that the op is male and the abusive partner is female. I am prepared to be corrected obviously.

To me it seems as though you want to leave the relationship but are scared that if you leave your ds will be the sole target for this abuse. You need to do the right thing for your son and you. No one deserves to be treated like this, you need to get advice about what your next steps are, coming on here is the first step, you will get some sound advice on here. I hope you take it.

SunnyBaudelaire · 23/12/2014 11:38

ah OK if the OP is male, perhaps he is worried that the 'partner' would get residence of the child.
OP can you get all this logged somehow, call SS even?