...to want to slap Jimmy Carr. Hard?

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Sexist git that he is. On Jonathon Ross last night, he walked past Barbara Windsor and said 'look at it, I'd give it one'.

Not all comedians 'observations' are true tho are they? 'Have you ever noticed how men/women always...' i often find myself thinking, umm, no, no one i know does that.

I don't want to have an argument with you and i'm not saying i agree with the observation, but i just don't want to slap/kick him. sorry.

If there is not even an ounce of identifiable truth in it, then it doesn't really work as an 'observation'.

I don't want an argument either, and nothing could persuade me not to want to kick him in the shins.

but is still HIS observation. the fact you find no truth in it is irrelevant really. i know others who do. i do not.

Anyway. i dont want to persuade you not to kick him. hard. there are plenty of people with more power to make life better for those with disabilities that i'd rather kick first.

i do agree with the above poster however, who said about him being ironic but many in his audience not so. Like Frankie Boyle and like 'Alf Garnett'. So i do have problems with the 'humour' to a certain degree. But then i hate myself for being a self absorbed post modernist MC superior twat - so i don't know what to think most of the time!

I don't understand what people are complaining about.

I find lots of comedy stomach-churning - Chubby Brown and his like - but I don't want to ban it. I don't have to see it on mainstream TV.

Though I'd say that many people on MN would giggle at the League of Gentlemen without perhaps noticing their tribute to Royston Vasey.

I don't like Chris Morris and found Brass Eye and particularly Jam very disturbing on Ch 4. Yet he is praised by the Left-Wing. I'd count myself as a Left Winger, but I'm not a Chris Morris fan.

I'm not a Charlie Brooker fan either. I find him trite and tiresome. But he's loved on here and also on Ch 4.

I also found Julia Davis's Nighty Night and Rob Brydon's Marion and Geoff disturbing and uncomfortable in their treatment of people with varying degrees of mental illness or personality disorder.

Does anyone want to discuss that?

Also Ricky Gervais's comedy. He was attacked on here. I'm not a mad fan but I think that the vitriol he has attracted has a lot to do with the fact that he's been far more successful than Davis and Brydon.

Do I want to ban any of these people - no.

I just choose not to watch them.

i love nighty night. the fringe trimming/eyebrow raising scene is one of the funniest things i have ever seen. i also love charlie brooker and chris morris.

i love david mitchell (a bit too much) as well.

i hate billy connelly.

I don't find jimmy carr funny at all it feels like an effort to watch him do stand up, I went to see him live a few years ago (OH likes him) and it wasn't great IMO.
Now Chris Morris and Julia Davis I love although I will say Nighty Night made me wince a few times. Stand up wise I love Stewart Lee I love the way his jokes are built up throughout the routine and weaves into each story the complete opposite of jimmy carrs cheap throwaway one liners for a quick laugh

i think you can like both Wishful. i prefer Stewart Lee (seen him a couple of times as well as Richard herring - i don't like carr enough to go and see him tho) but as i said upthread i also like the quick one liner style.

i went to see Russell Kane years ago and he was very good, similar in build up to Lee iirc. It was all about the formula for being middle class and done in shakespearian English.But now i see him doing i'm a celeb so think he may have gone in a different direction God i'm a wanker.

I did like Human Remains (very close to the bone) but Nighty Night was a bit much for me, as were some parts of TLoG - which veered some way from dark comedy into plain old dark.

I think there are plenty of comedians who touch on rather grim and unpleasant issues without appealing to the lowest common denominator, which is what JC does (IMO). That's why I don't and never will like or laugh at him.

And don't get me started on Borat. Sacha Baron Cohen is racist, IMHO.

i cant watch borat.

Haven't read the thread because i don't need to. He's a bell end.

the 10 million who'll be watching Mrs Brown's Boys this Christmas are the ones we should be concerned about.

How is Sacha Baron Cohen racist, limited?

holy shit Nancy. really? that many?

yeah, I think it was one of the most watched things last Christmas!

And a sizeable number of them didn't realise Mrs Brown is played by a man

what?! are you joking Punani?

Mrs brown is a MAN!

Hate his sexist humour, and not that keen on that quick fire delivery either so he does nothing for me.

Got John Bidhop on in the background at the moment and DH walked in and was gobsmacked at the close ups of the dancers bums, he asked if it was a repeat of something from the 1970s.

So racist humour = beyond the pale
disabilist humour = fill your boots

weird

How is Sacha Baron Cohen racist, limited?

You're quite right, Alisvolatpropiis He's not racist. I believe the correct term is xenophobic. And sexist. You've seen Borat, I take it?

I phrased my question poorly, limited, it wasn't intended to be a challenge or infer you were incorrect.

I've seen Borat yes, found it moderately funny in parts. It's his later film, Bruno which I didn't like at all. I was quite shocked by it and generally speaking, I'm not easily shocked.

I see. Sorry from me too. He has that effect on me . He's a smart-arse bully who picks on people who can't fight back.

It was a shame that village he depicted as being full of anti-Semites and rapists wasn't in North Korea. Then Borat would have got pulled just like The Interview, which sounds equally witless.

Borat and Bruno are hugely funny!

i can't watch it without coming over all hot and itchy and panicky. I consider it 'squirm' humour. It's all a bit 'Beadles About' for me.

My favourite comedians are political and left wing, so Mark Thomas and Mark Steel do it for me as well as Ben Elton back in the day (not now tho - such a shame :( )

S B Cohen pushes boundaries that's for sure.

When he was naked in the lift with his friend