AIBU to believe in conspiring theorys?

[FriedFishAndBread]

That they never really landed on the moon, the rothschilds and their central banks in every country but two, jfk, Martin Luther King, the Whitehouse has actually admitted assignating malcom x, the pesticides they put in food to kill us and the flouride in water makes us stupid and is rat poised.

I may have been on ig to long... can I please have some common sense or is it true and the world's richest are out to get us and control us.

When Icke talks about lizards I believe hes not talking about literal lizards. . I think you should read what his written then form an opinion?!

You're grasping at straws here because we know that didn't happen in the Hillsborough case but it's patently untrue to say there are no similarities in what the families suffered.

But they were called liars while grieving for lost loved ones. And there was a conspiracy to cover up. That's my point. Not specifically what the lies were.

The specific lies told would never be the same because no two situations are alike. I think they suffered in exactly the same way. They've lost family and are having to defend their loved ones and themselves because of people taking part in an actual conspiracy to cover up or from conspiracy theorists. The bottom line of it is that they suffered more than they needed to because of people questioning official accounts.

They lost children. Which is the most horrific thing to happen to anyone. Their children were killed unlawfully. So no, I'm really not seeing a colossal difference here. I imagine the lies piled even more hurt but the hurt of losing the child is the worst pain of all and they DO have that in common. I think it's quite disrespectful to suggest it was worse for one group than the other, actually. One is accused of not having lost a child at all. The other is told their loved ones caused their own death and those of others. Both awful.

One of my guilty pleasures is watching Jonathan Creek episodes on TV. I love the premise of a strange something happening, usually a death, with unusual circumstances that point to something most bizarre having occurred. And I particularly love that JC debunks everything so complicated to prove that something simple occurred instead. That is how I feel about conspiracy theories. They can be interesting to discuss, but ultimately the more complicated they get, the more ridiculous, the less likely they are to have taken place in such a way. The simplest option is almost always the actual one.

So yeah, these threads are interesting, but the theories are generally BS!

Bit of a flaw in that. I've not, at any point said who it's worse for. So yours is a non point really. You could as easily say the SH parents never had to endure hearing their children were responsible for their own deaths and those of the other children's. That's a suffering the Hillsborough families had to endure that the SH parents haven't. As I said, no two situations are the same so if lies are told, they will be different lies. Whatever those lies might be the consequences are the same for the bereaved. Just more hurt to deal with on top of the worst pain of all.

Excuse the interjection, but has anyone, at any point said Hillsborough didn't happen or was made up?

That's a pretty fundamental difference right there.

Icke was only right about Savile on the stopped clock basis: if you pick up every conspiracy going, chances are you will hit upon something with a vein of truth somewhere at some time. In no way does this mean that we must believe every daft conspiracy theory going.

I'm not sure if this is a conspiracy theory exactly but...

The Malaysia airline plane that vanished. I believe that someone knows more than they are saying or what has been publicly announced. A plane full of people in this day and age does not just vanish without a trace.

They did suffer the same thing. They lost children. I've never claimed to know how how it made them feel. N, nobody ever claimed Hillsborough didn't happen but a lot of the official findings were made up, yes.

People seem to be making the mistake that I've said one was worse than the other or that it's not disrespectful to claim SH didn't happen. I haven't. I think both sets of families were/are treated appallingly by people believing and spouting lies. And that there are similarities in the fact their suffering is compounded by them.

But it's also naive to think governments don't cover things up when Hillsborough proves they can and have done. That's where comparisons set in.

I just typed a long message but I will probably get banned if I continue.

You are just using emotive language when you do not know much apart from terrorist, soldier and decapitated.

Btw was rigby a soldier or a cadet?
Was he married or engaged to someone else?
Was he on the way to a wedding show in the tower of London ?

Why was he even going to Woolwich when his battalion wasnt there?

Why was there no blood on his white t shirt?

why was there no blood on the light colour coat on one of the michaels?

If he was decapitated what happened to his head?

I'd have to be really quite dim to think that because of Hillsborough it automatically means all other conspiracies are real.

're the rest of your post. We're going round in circles so I'll.leave it there.

Chris Spivey is just another Internet loon that enjoys getting attention. It's probably just wank fodder to him.

Fusilier Lee Rigby was Regular soldier and member of 2RRF. He was a Drummer in the Fusilier Band and a Gunner on Ops. He was married with one child, but was in the process of getting divorced. He intended to marry again as soon as the divorce was through. At the time of his death he was working with the Fusilier RRT (Regtl Recruiting Team) which is quartered in London, HQ in Aldershot. He would have toured the country with the team (There are 15 or so RRTs and a number of ARTs at any one time), but was off duty when he was murdered.

He wasn't decapitated (although his murderers tried). His head was still attached both in the street and at his funeral. His military funeral was attended by about 2000 people, which included in one representative from every Regt and Corps of the British Army, and a senior rep from the RN and RAF. He then had a private family service that only his closest military friends attended.

About 200 people attended his commemoration ceremony at the National Memorial. I went to that one. It was very moving.

Fus Rigby is a murder victim. His family doesn't need wankers making up stuff about his death that causes more pain. His son doesn't need to read this shit as he grows. There is no conspiracy. Fucking loons.

ooh its all kicking off ..conspiracy bunfight!

That's really all you can say in response to Eve's post? Pathetic.