to wish the BBC would stop calling Scotland 'Northern UK'??

[CocktailQueen]

Was reading the BBC weather website yesterday about the weather bomb that hit northern UK.

Drives me mad! Separate country ... it's never been 'northern UK'. Grr.

You know, I have really no objection to being proved wrong, or understanding a different viewpoint. So if the OP would take the trouble to actually explain how the phrase is inaccurate, we might all be able to have a more sensible discussion, rather than the OP just getting huffy when people disagree with her.

or maybe she is one of those people who would rather fling insults then flounce off in a huff rather than accept she is wrong with good grace and sensible discussion

"Of course they're all part of the UK too."

Yes. And some of them are in the, er, northern part.

dont be daft op, anywhere north of Watford is "northern" to the BBC

Oh OP has had enough. I was waiting to hear a bit more explanation from OP as to what thoughts and feelings prompted this thread.

It is interesting what causes these gut reactions, I responded to the OP as during indyref one person who made a switch to Yes in the latter stages gave as their most easily articulated reason the observation that UK weather reports regularly ignore Scotland. I watch the same reports and don't see a problem. All fascinating.

At least OP proved useful in pointing out that peninsular the adjective is spelled differently to peninsula the noun.

The weather reports do seem to inspire a lot of emotion. Pete Wishart was kicking off on Twitter about the weather map and the fact it is tilted and not representative of the landmass. I find the reports concentrate on whatever part of the UK is in line for extreme weather. And there is a concentration on the highest populated areas. Which makes sense. All forecasts including the Scottish ones tend to completely ignore where I grew up and concentrate on the cities - which makes sense because hardly anyone lives where I grew up and lots of people live in the cities.

I have to :) when someone asks AIBU? and then refuses to accept the answer.

Thanks OP!

Also when OP rails at the levels of ignorance on the thread I had a laugh - albeit a rueful one.

Are the occupants of northern England OK at the moment? Rather than worrying about what you call scotland, northern ireland and the most northern part of England, can we worry if everyone is alright?

Is there anything that us occupants of Southern UK can do to help other than pray for everyone up north?

Send blankets. And care packages of chocolate. Chocolate blankets will do nicely.

Using the North of Watford definition I am also oop North, so can I put in a request for chocolate blankets?

We don't really have a weather bomb as such but it is a bit chilly. (Wimpy southerner alert)

Oh dear, whatever about Scotland and 'Northern Uk'.

OfficerKaren : 'that should read "and I'm guessing Rep of Ireland too."

The official name of the country is Ireland or Éire in Irish. Not the Republic of Ireland. At least you didn't call you didn't call it 'Southern Ireland', considering that part of Donegal is more northerly than Northern Ireland.

Thanks Pang I was told by an Irish friend not to use Eire and I "corrected from Ireland as I wanted to distinguish the bit that the BBC weather report didn't have a duty to cover. Geography is full of hidden traps.

At least you didn't go "Grr!"

My guess was that Donegal got it pretty bad.

It's fine to say Éire if you're were speaking in Irish. I think the UK government initially refused to recognize Irish independence and so wouldn't use the official name in English. So they started using Éire in a mocking way. There's history, I guess.

Yes, the weather always seems to become iffy around Christmas.

They say some of the biggest waves on they planet is off the west Irish coast.

Somebody got footage!

www.breakingnews.ie/discover/amazing-footage-shows-just-how-wild-the-weather-was-in-donegal-last-night-654193.html

Republic of Ireland is absolutely fine, especially when used to distinguish from the geographical landmass that is the island of Ireland

Eire isn't great, unless you tend to say Deutschland when speaking in English about Germany. Besides, we rarely say Eire in Irish, it's usually Eireann because of the complexities of Irish grammar (which no, I don't fully understand and certainly can't explain). I've never heard an Irish person use the word Eire when speaking in English, only British people tying themselves up in knots trying to be politically correct.

My parents live in the very north of England & the weather bomb affected them as well, it didn't stop at the border.
North of the UK was an accurate description.

North of the UK is an inaccurate description! The Northern UK was correct!

According to the Irish constitution, the country's name is Eire, or in English, Ireland. Historically, it claimed the entire island as its territory.

"Republic of Ireland" is the football team. This is because after partition, the FAI was formed, resulting in a stoush with the already existing IFA over who got to regulate Irish football. Eventually there was a "partition" along the boundary.

As for those who get offended by references to "northern UK" - for God's sake get over yourselves. Yes, we get that you're Scottish. There really is no need to labour the point unless your intention is to bore everyone to death.