to wish the BBC would stop calling Scotland 'Northern UK'??

[CocktailQueen]

Was reading the BBC weather website yesterday about the weather bomb that hit northern UK.

Drives me mad! Separate country ... it's never been 'northern UK'. Grr.

Have been out for lunch and got back to see this has turned into a giant Referendum thread. How bizarre.

A few points: I do have a map. I live in the Home Counties (and would have voted NO anyway, in the Referendum). And this thread has nothing to do with Scottish independence - how odd to suggest that.

You wouldn't hear the BBC talking about 'southern Britain' - because southern Britain is England. Wales is not so far south. It was just lazy - and it was on the BBC website, so shouldn't have been a matter of being quicker to type 'northern Britain' than 'the west of Scotland and north-west England'.

And OfficerKaren: Guessing from experience that they are more used to getting their prejudices confirmed and bolstered by their mates on a daily basis than actually putting up a debate.

WTF? Prejudice??? I have no idea who you are and you certainly don't know me, so keep your personal opinions to yourself. What a pile of offensive crap. (Also, it's peninsula - not peninsular.)

if we all kept our personal opinions to ourselves, it would be a little bit quiet on these them boards though wouldn't it?

So, CocktailQueen, what if they have, in previous similar reports, written 'the west of Scotland and north-west England', and had to face (justified, compared to yours) complaints that they had ignored Northern Ireland?

And I have heard reports on weather refer to southern, eastern and western Britain/UK, when it is relevant and appropriate, just as it was to refer to the 'northern UK' here.

And this thread has nothing to do with Scottish independence - how odd to suggest that.

Erm, I think that probably stemmed from your OP giving the impression that you believe Scotland isn't part of the UK...

I was born in South Yorkshire (Yorks & Humber), which we called up North, but others say we're in the middle.

Scotland is Northern UK though... And family "up North" say they've been hit by some of it too. Especially the wind.

*And this thread has nothing to do with Scottish independence - how odd to suggest that.

Erm, I think that probably stemmed from your OP giving the impression that you believe Scotland isn't part of the UK...*

flowery - Not at all. You may have inferred that, but it is a separate country, as well as being part of the UK.

Brandybutter - obviously the boards would be quiet if people refrained from giving their personal opinions, but I wasn't looking for opinions on my character or personality from one post on here.

"Drives me mad! Separate country ... it's never been 'northern UK'. Grr."

your words.. WRONG!

its not a separate country when talking about the UK!

OP you seem determined to ignore Northern Ireland in all this. Surely "Northern UK" is a better, more succinct description than "Scotland, northern England and Northern Ireland"?

Why are Scots so chippy? (I'm one too)

Meh, it was probably just quicker to say "Northern UK" than "Scotlandnorthwestenglandandnorthernireland". I'm sure I've heard them just say "Scotland" when it's just been Scotland, but yesterday it definitely wasn't. I can vouch for that personally, having been clonked on the head by a bin lid.

You clearly like pedantry OP. Can't ypu see the bad weather did in fact affect more than Scotland. The northern part of the UK, I'm guessing Ireland but they have news and weather coverage via their own national broadcaster.

If I mistook your OP for the general BBC bashing of the 45 then I apologise.

(a Northern Irish bin lid)

that should read "and I'm guessing Rep of Ireland too."

The more I consider this so called "lazy" weather reporting the more I think they got it right.

What a load of utterly pointless bollocks.

The forecaster referred to the northern part of the UK as the northern part of the UK. Because it is the northern part of the UK.

No politics involved.

YABU. End of.

Probably means nothing this time. They are a shower of cunts towards Scotland in general though.

Cocktail, meet Bum..

"it's never been 'northern UK'"

So if you are in fact perfectly aware that Scotland is indeed part of the UK, then presumably your quibble is with "northern"? Apologies for my assumption that it was the UK part you had a problem with.

No they wouldn't say "southern UK" because when they are talking about weather in Kent it only involves one country.

Repeating what others said, it is weather so it is based on Geography, not man-made borders.

"Why are Scots so chippy?"

That's an interesting one. I was on a thread a few years ago where a Scot cited the 18th century behaviour of English princes as perfectly reasonable justification for chippiness. Whilst I don't dispute historical atrocities in the slightest, I am fairly confident English behaviour in Ireland and indeed many other countries has been worse, and in many cases, more recent, but I don't think the attitude is replicated, unless I'm being naive which is entirely possible.

OfficerKaren is giving me the lolz and I'm not even a 17 year old with a texting habit.

Natural phenomena don't stop at man made boundaries. There are parts of England further north than the southern tip of Scotland.

I'm guessing they meant the north as in the north of England as well.

Although on another note, the BBC are [insert unspeakable words] here. I wouldn't be surprised if they did refer to Scotland as the north of the UK.