to wish the BBC would stop calling Scotland 'Northern UK'??

[CocktailQueen]

Was reading the BBC weather website yesterday about the weather bomb that hit northern UK.

Drives me mad! Separate country ... it's never been 'northern UK'. Grr.

it is the northern UK. You bottled it and voted to stay.

you might blow away this weekend of course...

What actually irritated me was that the low had finished bombing out by the time the fringes of it hit the UK. We werent hit by a weather bomb, we were hit by a mature low. grrr....
However the stormy weather did hit parts of Northern England as well as Scotland and therefore the northern UK was affected.

The map I'm posting, is a met office one that I found when discussing where Manchester is climatologically on a thread yesterday. It's the regions the met office splits the UK into.

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Hang on i mean the status of Scotland as a country not a region is right, not all the BBC bollocks..

Well, it's not in the south, is it?

Drew you a diagram. HTH.

If you get slighted by stuff like this I don't know now how’d you’d get on here- a significant proportion of Britons don’t even know we’re part of the UK.

I think that the "weather bomb" hit Northern Ireland as much as the scotland. Describing scotland and northern ireland as northern UK is a strange way to describe the particular landmass, but I don't understand why you find it offensive. Scotland voted to stay in the UK.

Weather does not respect national boundaries and there is an element of unpredictablity. Perhaps the BBC had no idea if the north of england was going to be affected or not. Northern UK is a a bit of a cop out as no is clear exactly what they mean.

During the War my father got into a row in a pub for calling a Shetlander a Scot - perhaps the BBC is wise to use vague geographical expressions when it can!

If you look at a map then the genuine north of the UK would surely start at about Inverness, or even further, as Shetland and the Orkney Islands are also part of the UK and thus they are 'north' as well.

It's a silly term as it's too ambiguous. Would be better to say the weather was affecting parts of Northern Scotland, etc..

I always laugh when they seem surprised that it's snowing up here though, surely that is something that would be expected!!

I don't think Carlisle is north of Edinburgh, kim!

YABU

Scotland is part of the United Kingdom, therefore, Northern UK.

Last i saw, they voted against a separate state, so you're still part of the UK up there!

Carlisle is certainly not further North than Edinburgh!

Well I live in W Yorks, so "middle UK", but we're definitely being weather bombed.

I used to bang my head against the same brick wall have the same discussion with someone in Wales who got shirty every time Wales got referred to as 'U.K.' or 'Britain'. 'We're a separate country, you know! Got our own Assembly!' Yes, dear, but you are nonetheless part of the landmass that is Great Britain and form part of the United Kingdom. She and the OP don't seem to notice the difference between 'Britain/UK' and 'England'. THAT drives me mad OP. YABU.

Carlisle is Cumbria, Edinburgh is Scotland.

Is it quicker and easier to say "Northern UK" than "Scotland and the north of England"? Probably. Weather forecasts are very short and they have to pack a lot of info in.

In any event, Scotland IS in the north of the UK and Great Britain.

Carlisle isn't north of Edinburgh - in fact the border is much further south by Carlisle than it is on the east coast.

However, in a bit of trivia, Cardiff is east of Edinburgh and that DID surprise me.

That's interesting non-controversial geography hellyhants!

I always get more bothered when they say "The North" and don't mean Scotland but the bit of England which is just South of me.

I loved (though completely didn't understand) Bad kitten's clarification.

Carlisle is, counterintuitively, EAST of Edinburgh, which may be where the cool-fact-about-Edinburgh-and-Carlisle confusion came in (it's more-or-less due south of Edinburgh, but slightly over to the east).