Ofsted Inspection - Is this unreasonable?

[BertieBrabinger]

How would you react if you were asked by a teacher at your DC's school to keep them out of school for the day of the inspection in case they were a disruptive influence? Is this something Ofsted recommend?

It's a bit weird, right?

lljkk "play the SN card"
Really?! Did you think before you typed that?

When I was on the management committee the only notice the staff had of OFSTED was about 5 minutes, as the inspector asked me directions to park her car.

I do not know any child under 10 who is a "brat" a lot, unless they have a SN and/or problems in their life. I know very few over 10 too.

If/when a child of mine is causing problems, I seek help from where ever I can get it.

lljkk are you ok ?

some children have sen
some have difficult home lives and are lacking in sleep, not necessarily their parents fault...sometimes circumstances
some, a very few, children are very bright and bored out of their skulls and a small proportion of those exhibit challenging behaviour.

many, many reasons for small children to be disruptive.

I think the school are wrong, but I also think that the school's failure is for the other children in that class just as much, as it does beg the question as to what is an average lesson like for them

I had something like this with my son pre diagnosis though although he was suspected ASD and school literally hated having him there excluded him every day age 6. I collected one day and DS said he had hada lovely day and he had a teacher all to himself and his own table and did some nice work. Next morning I approached teacher in class(knowing full well the ofsted lady was also in classroom) and asked in a loud voice if the 1:1 that my son had recieved the day before and that the school denied my son needed and stated they couldn't provide was actually staying AFTER ofsted had left or was it ok purely for show....... Queue teacher panicking and ofsted lady asking for more info and head appearing in doorway. They excluded da permanently a few weeks later....

How thoughtful of you. I am sure the Ofsted inspection the teacher had to then endure went really well. I am sure she deserved all of that, after all, its entirely her decision as to whether or not your child qualifies for 1:1 funding.

A diagnosis or 'label' is not there to save the parents from shame, it's not even an excuse for bad behaviour believe it or not, it's a reason but not an excuse.

It is there so that the child gets the support that they need.

If your child is having a hard time in school and constantly getting into trouble it's normally a sign that they are not coping one way or another.

If you are doing everything you can to help your child you shouldn't feel any shame at all Iljkk.

Noble. I had a class with a very large majority in it with SN or bad home lives.

I also had an ofsted inspection. I dealt with it. I got outstanding. No one was kept home. I wasn't scared.

I help out in an EBD school, all the children there have challenging behaviour, the school is ofsted outstanding.

So no, if you are meeting their needs then you don't have anything to fear.

If you've just bunged them in anger management and think that'll solve it then yes, you do have something to fear.

And although I hate her post a lot. Llljk or whatever her name is does sound like she isn't ok and doesn't need to be attacked right now.

What's going on? Have you any support?

Hurricane, it's nice that you got outstanding, but that doesn't stop Ofsted from being a load of subjective bollocks. Another inspector could have given you or the school a different grade and you'd have a different story to tell - look at the Trojan Horse debacle.

And if you think whether the kid gets anger management or other intervention is up to me, you're overestimating my pay grade.

Not to in any way defend idiotic talk of card playing etc, but it surely can be true that some children with a diagnosis might have parents who don't deal with that so well (I am loathe to say bad parents) or aren't great parents generally? Surely it's obviously not the case that all parents of SN kids are going to be superb at parenting - as with any large cohort of humans, there's going to be a lot of variety in attitudes, behaviours etc. Is it really so inconceivable that occasionally a teacher might encounter lazier parents who blame the condition rather than pull their weight properly in the equation? Please don't shoot the devil's advocate. Obviously making very generalised statements could be pretty offensive, but people clearly aren't all identical in their approaches.

Schools aren't meant to keep pupils away when Ofsted come knocking.

For a typically developing child, average parenting is usually good enough to ensure reasonable behaviour. When a child has sn even with very good parenting, a child can frequently have disruptive or challenging behaviour.