Ofsted Inspection - Is this unreasonable?

[BertieBrabinger]

How would you react if you were asked by a teacher at your DC's school to keep them out of school for the day of the inspection in case they were a disruptive influence? Is this something Ofsted recommend?

It's a bit weird, right?

Happened to me when my youngest was in reception.

I was bemused but kept him off.. He was hard work in reception.

Very true GrayAnalogy, why is there such an assumption?

It does happen. They is usually a core group of arseholes who are hell bent on wreaking the lessons. We have had a small group taken out for the day in the past. Amazing how such a small group of kids can cause such disruption and misery to the majority

Should add.... I am talking secondary school, usually year 10 and 11 students.

But how come it's okay for this 'small group of kids to cause such disruption and misery to the majority' on normal days, but suddenly not when OFSTED are in? I mean we all know the answer, but that isn't fair. It needs to be dealt with.

The school asking you to keep your child at home means their performance during the inspection won't be a true reflection of how they perform day to day. I'm not saying your child is badly behaved as I don't know about that but they should be addressing and overcoming any difficulty they are having with your child rather than papering over the cracks for a better ofsted result. I agree with sending them in having eaten haribo for breakfast but definitely call ofsted.

Good one stitch for that pointlessly spiteful input.

GraysAnalogy

No one has said that its ok.

Well if children are disruptive to that level then there must be something going on. Either an SN meaning they are unable to process things/ cope the same and need things in place that some schools can't be bothered to do.

Or

They have experienced something traumatic. Be it grief, bad parenting, abuse or disruption in the family.

In all cases the child is not at fault. In all cases schools should be able to cope, especially in nursery or primary schools. There should be measures in place to support these children, and if there is, this is something that schools will want to show off to OFSTED.

If they want to hide the children away, they are basically admitting they are failing the child.

Bit confused as I thought Private schools weren't under the remit of OFSTED?

Sorry boney I should have said how come it's seen as okay by schools, not people here.

Hurr1cane In all honestly some children are just disruptive. They don't have to have special needs of have experience anything traumatic for them to demonstrate 'bad behaviours'. Although I agree that in all cases schools should be able to cope, and they are failing if they think hiding a child away is adequate. It's disgusting.

And yes, sometimes disruptive children are a product of parents who aren't doing a very good job, but these children will not have a diagnosis of SN.

Their parents should be supported by SS and the school and offered parenting classes.

Wine - independents are inspected by the Independent Schools Inspectorate (ISI) although haven't read the whole thread and therefore don't know if it's fee paying or not.

Grays, no, some children are not just disruptive, they may not have learnt how to behave which is the fault of the parents if no SN or terrible situation, but no, they are not born like that. That's ridiculous.

And yes, I have taught a class where a great majority of children had very very disruptive home lives, Not many weeks went by without pink slips being filled out for SS. But none of them were disruptive in class after the first couple of weeks of full on positive behaviour management. They were wonderful children.

Hurr1cane I didn't say they were born like that. I don't think bad behaviour is something we can pin point on a genome.

But it's not always because of trauma, parental fault or SN.

Purple - HMI needed to be called in then. Raise a complaint and a no notice inspection should be actioned.

If you know corruption has taken place you need to complain.

Behaviour is always presenting for a reason in children. Always. It may be for attention, for sensory difficulties, or for gain. But there's always a reason, and when you pin point that reason it is fairly easy to put measures in place to help them.

Yes I don't dispute that at all, I'm just saying the options aren't limited to the ones you presented.

Although looking back I didn't word it that way at all, so apologies.

Well no not limited clearly. But the behaviour is never the fault of the child.

We don't blame babies for crying. I don't understand why we suddenly start blaming children when they reach the age of 2.

If they aren't behaving, it is the fault of the adult.

Not that the adult should feel like a bad parent, when my DS first degenerated neurologically I didn't know how to cope, I reprimanded him for answering back, he wasn't answering back, it was echolalia.

But that was my responsibility not his, and I researched and changed.

His behaviour in school was because they were shit.

They're still shit with children with SN by all accounts.

His wonderful behaviour in his Special school is because they're brilliant.

That's what I thought penfold, OP said it is a private per-school.

Oh don't apologise, it's been nice having a conversation with differing views with someone who can express them without being offensive or taking offence I take your point that I didn't explain myself well.

Yes that's a point penfold I'm not sure of ofsted v private schools. Have they got a regulator or...?