To think you can't just trundle along at any old speed you fancy...

[TallulahTwinkletoes]

I fully expect to get flamed for this because I know I'm a tad over the top about this but it's my pet hate so here goes.

If say be gentle but I know this is the wrong place for that

I drive a lot. Every day I drive on a road that's technically a country road as there are fields either side but it's more than wide enough and not too windy. This road is followed by two straight roads. These are all national speed limit roads.

This is comfortably attainable with a few corners on the country road where 50 is a better speed. Obviously various weathers call for different speeds. I was behind a double decker bus doing 50 down there today.

The last few days I have been stuck behind people doing 35-40. Today the lady flashed at me when I finally get chance to overtake.

They way I see it is if you are driving so slow on the roads either
A) you are unaware of the speed limit/unable to follow basic road signs and therefore shouldn't be driving
B) do not feel comfortable driving at an appropriate limit for the road and therefore shouldn't be driving.

I know it's a limit not a target but you fail your driving test if you 'fail to progress' so they shouldn't be driving like this.

It's the principle that they don't care about anyone's time frame or how they affect other people. They just trundle along deciding what speed they want to go at and not giving a fuck.

We all have bad days where we mess up roundabouts and misjudge but Jesus Christ, if you can't drive at 60 in a straight line...

Wow tired. Sounds fantastic. You wouldn't even have to pay me for that kind of fun

So many impatient people.

Better five minutes late than not at all.

Either you can't read, are stupid or plain ignorant. Your choice.

No, I am pointing out that you are not the driver you think you are. Your aggression is spilling out so much it's a wonder someone hasn't slipped on the floor. I can read fine and if you notice, I am quoting your words right back at you to show you how your behaviour is looking to the outside world.

You call everyone else cunts but can't cope when someone does to you what you do to them. It's always someone else's fault.

As I said earlier, you seem like you need some refresher training. Which is exactly what you prescribed for all your slowpokes.

If you can't take it, perhaps wind it in a little? Insulting all and sundry doesn't make you big and clever you know.

When someone does to me what I do to them? If someone casually overtakes me when safe and legal to do so, I let them and then look back to check I wasn't driving badly.

You may he quoting my words but you're not reading what I'm writing or how I'm writing it. You're seeing what you want to see. You don't know what my driving is like, you're purely guessing from the way you're reading my posts which again is incorrect.

As for the refresher courses, I said EVERYONE should go on them not just those that choose to drive at the speed they fancy.

When i first Started driving i was an angry driver and this stuff used to annoy me but then i realised i dont know whats going on in that car. I just wait to take over but i dont flash or drive up people's bum

Which is what I also do cat lady but apparently I need anger management...

Be fair Tallulah. CatLady hasn't use the language you have nor described her anger as putting her at risk of a stress induced heart attack or wanting to push someone along with her car.

You sound extremely angry, in your own words with no translation or adornment. Others, as well as myself, have expressed concern your YOU, as well as the other drivers you encounter.

As may have already been said, better to be late, than The Late...

Thank you for your concern no mama, it is very sweet. I have a potty mouth. I think possibly that affects the way what I say comes across. Surely tho, during rush hour and half an hour behind the same person because oncoming traffic means it wouldn't be safe to overtake does get you a bit on edge?

Yes it's a limit not a target but I'm with OP on this one to a point.Running a local business that requires me to drive around most of the day I have to really try to be patient a lot more I find nowadays.Im rapidly heading towards old age myself but there seem to be so many more older drivers out there 'pootling' way below the speed limit - 20 in a 40 limit stretch of road -and to put it bluntly I can see why they can make other drivers drive more aggressively.I try not to hassle them,or even overtake unless it's completely safe.Of course it's better to be safe ,but I really will give up driving sooner rather than later when I start driving so cautiously.And don't get me started on indicating left into a road that's wide,with good visibility and no cars coming the other way and coming to an stop before manoevering around the corner!

I also think that it doesn't really matter how angry I'm getting in my car. It's irrelevant to everyone but me. Heart attacks aren't great but as long as I'm not flashing, threatening tailgating etc etc does it matter that I'm angry in my own car?

I don't really notice or care, to be honest.

No one elses driving 'can make other drivers drive more aggressively' as Snuggle put it. You do that to yourself.

Sometimes you just have to let an annoying thing go. It is, after all, more about your perception of who is more important, than their driving! And that will always infuriate you and raise BP etc.

Don't really notice or care about which bit?

I think they just flash because they think you're massively out of order for overtaking. It can't be any other reason can it? Regardless of whether you are out of order or not...

Of course, some people are just massive cunts and drive flat out for no reason and tail gate until they get chance to overtake. Sometimes I flash them.

OP - you said that if they flash you, it is because they think you are out of order whether you are or not; but you flash them because they are cunts. So doesn't that make you a cunt if someone flashes you?

Have you got memory problems? You need to re-read your posts.

If you are angry in your car it definitely shows in your driving.

Slow drivers, lollygagging in general. I just drive according to what's happening in front of me. Overtake if it is safe, tootle along behind a slow driver if it isn't. No amount of anger form me can change that. So I see being angry in your car as self destructive and a lot of wasted effort and energy.

I would think it matters to others how angry you get, angry people can snap and react oddly, that's human nature. You may never have done so, but that would have to be qualified with 'yet'.

I generally get stuck behind tractors-you have to expect all sorts on country roads. It is difficult to get past a bicycle sometimes.

It also depends on how well you know the road. It must be irritating if you use it everyday to get behind someone who is very cautious because it is full of bends and they have never been on it before, but I would rather be safe than hurtle around corners I don't know.

Thing is it's not just five minutes, it's getting to the point that the 20 mile journey to the nearest town we have to allow 90 minutes for all the bad drivers, we can get stuck behind 4/5 different dawdlers in a single journey.
As we have to follow school times it's getting to the point where going out for the day to buy new clothes/Christmas shop/etc. is just not worth it. We have never made it all the way round one small town as there is never time.

One particular journey the dawdling driver we had been stuck behind indicated right and despite it being his right of way and only 3 cars visible, him us and car in junction, he waved the other car out first and we were then stuck behind yet another dawdler who we should have been in front of anyway.

Sadly I have spent time in a car with one of these drivers. She shouldn't be on the road. Reaction time is none existent, can't pay attention to road signs/markings or direct clear vocal instructions, if she was aware of road signs/marking/vocal instructions she wouldn't follow them correctly. Her reason for breaking when she saw a bus (despite all the other cars in front of us passing without incident) 'Oooo bus' She doesn't know what a slip road is and hesitates so much at any right turn that she missed the turn, and the next one, and the next, until miles later you hit traffic lights or roundabout. The constant mumbling about how she will drive how she likes and how the other driver 150 yards behind should back off, she was constantly petrified herself. It was the most terrifying four days of my life as we drove the same route back and forth, each time her driving stayed equally terrifying, only I worked out the timings and simplifying of instructions did we at least start make right turns and so shorten our journey. She passed her test in the last 10 years and hopefully her failing health will get her off the road before she kills anyone . and I didn't even mention her age-

I think we should all have to retake our tests every 10 years or so, with more frequent resits if the examiner thought helpful. It would remind us all of best practice.

With experience and maturity you learn how to behave on the road.

Like someone else said you may overtake someone but you will see them behind you at the next set of lights.

People drive differently. Some stick exactly to the speed limit, some at 35 mph no matter what and some like 17 year old idiots.

Being angry and making the driver in front aware of you isn't good. For what? Arriving somewhere 45 seconds earlier?

Don't be a twat.

Don't be a twat.

Fuck yes!

Not at all tiggy - the road I use often has very slow drivers on it who drive 20/30 mph under the speed limit when conditions are perfectly suited to driving at the limit which is 60 and 10 mph over the speed limit through villages of 30.

Not being able to drive to the limit of the road does not make you a better driver in any way, shape or form - and it's certainly not the case that they will arrive 45 seconds after me if they are doing 30 mph less than the limit of 60.

ding - I'm confused (it's easily done ) - if the speed limit is 50kph and the care in front did 50/60kph why is that a problem

I drive a lot. I stick to the speed limit. I do see the drivers who overtake me at the lights. Looking like nobs. Really worth risking a crash I don't think.

And if you tailgate I'll slow down even more.