AIBU to air my views on my child's safety in school in front of 26 parents of children in the same class???

[Warriorqueen69]

Ok, my dd is year 6 and in the year 7 maths group in her primary school. She is a good girl in class - never had a bad word said about her by the staff.

The other day, her group was left to work unsupervised for a few minutes. Some of them ran around the room with rulers hitting other kids, others did silly dances. My dd asked around for a pencil sharpener from a couple of kids, as her pencil lead had broken and she wanted to be ready for the test on the teacher's return and her sharpener was missing from her pencil case.

My dd went to the door to look for her teacher to alert her to the bad behaviour that had ensured. The teacher entered and promptly gave the whole class a sanction, my dd included.
No big deal really, if a tad unfair.

Anyway, a while ago I'd started this year 6 site on FB for parents - a general info site, sharing of ideas, concerns etc - we have them in all the other years, so it was a good idea (I thought) to start something for our year.

I posted a post asking parents about how they felt about kids getting a sanction after being unsupervised for a time in class. I suggested I wasn't happy about this. (May I say now I am a secondary school teacher and I would not expect children under 15 to be able to comply with being silent in their seats in the absence of a member of staff). It was a bit of a grumble, nothing more and in the morning, i sought out the teacher concerned and had a real heart to heart.

Thing is, in the interim, someone felt it necessary to go and tell the teacher I had been unhappy with how things had transpired. So after we had sorted it out, she asked me not to post on FB.

Sorry, but I had posted in a very discrete group mentioning no names about a general situation. I reserve my right to free speech, especially where my child is concerned. I am pretty pissed off with the person who thought it appropriate to stir things up, something small and irritating, making it involve many people.

In short, this evening, I had TWO school dads laying into me: How DARE I disrespect the teacher by questioning her authority. One was almost threatening, suggesting that if I ever involved his daughter in anything in future, he would not "stand for it".

AIBU to expect the school to account for the times they leave my 10 year old unsupervised and then whack a blanket sanction on all the kids when the teacher returns regardless???? AIBU to expect threatening and horrible comments from fathers of my dd's peers when I question this policy of the schools?

My dd asked around for a pencil sharpener from a couple of kids, as her pencil lead had broken and she wanted to be ready for the test on the teacher's return and her sharpener was missing from her pencil case.
My dd went to the door to look for her teacher to alert her to the bad behaviour that had ensured.

Of course she did...

YABVU.

My dd went to the door to look for her teacher to alert her to the bad behaviour that had ensured

Honestly? I'd be having a chat with your dd about what sort of reception she'll get from kids once she's in secondary when she runs to tell tales.

Ds1 is only in Year 2, but he's sensible and mature, very emphatic about 'right' and 'wrong' and a rule follower by nature.

Over the past few months we've had quite a few chats about telling tales because he was reporting even the tiniest bit of bad behaviour or rule breaking to the teacher.

I've told him that he's responsible for his own behaviour and that his teachers are responsible for everyone else's, and to not get involved unless he sees something dangerous, or another child being mean to someone.

I think you'd do best by telling your dd the same, or her Secondary years are going to be a living hell for her.

OP I was helping with DD's school trip yesterday. On our return her class teacher asked if I'd kindly drop a note off with another teacher and wait for a reply while I was waiting for DD to get changed and sort out her homework.

I knocked on the door and it was answered by a pupil. The rest of the class were sitting quietly working through their maths. The teacher was't in the room. I was politely invited to wait at her desk and she returned a couple of minutes later. Not a sound from the class except for one girl asking another to borrow her rubber.

Teacher returned - she'd had to take one of the children to the school nurse as they'd started a sudden heavy nose bleed.

This class was year 3 so 7 and 8 year olds. If it can be expected of them it can be expected of children your DD's age and should certainly be expected in secondary school.

I'm surprised the HT hasn't asked for those fb sites to be taken down. Sounds like they could be defamatory.

And your DD is in for a hell of a time at secondary if she doesn't learn to stop snitching.

Which you should know, if you're a secondary teacher.

I feel sorry for your DD's teacher.

You should expect a legal letter from the LA or academy trust warning you of the consequences if you do not remove the facebook site.

Another op who flounces off when they don't like what hear.

Unreasonable and shit stirring OP.

I'm confused by the year 7 maths thing....surely year 6's are at primary school and year 7's at secondary? If so, how can a year 6 be in a year 7 maths class?

YABU to have complained on social media before discussing the issue with the teacher. Are you really so naive that you didn't think someone would mention it to her?

YABVU, you can't really be a teacher, surely?

I agree that there is no such thing as an fb group that is both discrete and discreet. I would expect a teacher to understand that.

Is this really the level of expectation to be found among teachers in Britain's schools? I hope not

No, it really is not!!

Have only skimmed the thread, but if your daughter really went to tell the teacher, as she said, my first reaction would be not to snipe about the teacher online, but to talk gently to my daughter about the difference between telling tales and legitimate reporting of schoolmates doing something dangerous or bullying. Tbh, I would have expected most children to understand the difference by the end of primary school.

The schools I worked in did not allow teachers to leave the room unless a TA was present. In my experience of Year 7, the normal 'challenging' pupils would play up fairly soon after the teacher did leave. Normally a list of the children causing problems was kept. Depending on the type of misbehaviour, sanctions would follow. I do not agree with punishing the whole class if the same pupils are causing problems. It is up to the teacher to effectively control the class.
Unless you have worked in the classroom, most of you would have no idea what happens in a school classroom. The behaviour of this class sounds slightly worse than my usual experiences. I feel sorry for your daughter & the other pupils who do not wish to get into trouble.
Facebook is a different issue. I would not post in any open or closed group about school matters.

Is this a reverse?

YABU

I've only skimmed the thread, but I would have thought it was obvious that whatever was said about the teacher in that group was going to get back to them. You can't possibly be a teacher and think this is acceptable. You can't possibly have an ounce if sense and think this group is acceptable.

If I was you I'd be more concerned about being a secondary school teacher and who doesn't know the difference between discrete and discreet....