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To never want anyone to champion Jack Monroe again?

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SuperScrimper · 24/11/2014 07:05

After what she has tweeted about David Cameron. here

Like him or loathe him to describe the way he talks about his deceased son as 'misty eyed' and used for political gain is disgusting.

The greatest loss any of us can imagine is the loss of a child. Shock horror, even politician have real feeling. It's just awful that she would say that about another parent.

I don't care what she can do with a bloody lentil. Something's are just too low.

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WetAugust · 26/11/2014 17:37

I was going to say the same Silk but thought I would be flamed, so deleted my post.

RabbitOfNegativeEuphoria · 26/11/2014 17:37

The poster's experience is irrelevant in this context. In exactly the same way that Cameron's experience of having a disabled child was irrelevant when he used it to shut down debate about the employment rights of disabled adults.

It seems that you are all for listening to others when their views match your own but if they don't then you want to shut them down.

MrsDeVere · 26/11/2014 17:39

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raltheraffe · 26/11/2014 17:40

Well just checked her Twitter and no apology for the offence she has caused just more #cameronmustgo Tweets. Oh and she pointed out that she understands grief. Bollocks! I have lost relatives but I have never lost a child and you cannot compare the two.

Silkchiffon · 26/11/2014 17:40

I hope wasn't offensive to point out WetAugust - it's not intended as an attack, just a comment. Everyone should be free to comment

ArcheryAnnie · 26/11/2014 17:41

I'm really sorry you lost a child, MrsDeVere, and I wish every support you can get for the child you still have and care for.

It wasn't my child who was ill then, but I was a single mum with my own then-pretty-limiting health problems, attempting to support a long-term ill (and difficult) sibling, and then caring for my disabled and then (horribly, messily, painfully, lengthily) dying mother at the same time I had sole custody of my then-small DS, and was desperately trying to hang onto my job. I look back on it and don't know how I got through it. It took years and I think of it in a haze of madness. I can remember breaking down in Boots one day, all the xmas decorations were up, xmas music was playing, I had my exhausted child with me, and all I had in the basket were nappies for him and nappies for my mum, I knew I was screwing up my work, and I lost it a bit.

Silkchiffon · 26/11/2014 17:42

Think you're playing with words MrsDevere - you are suggesting they can't comment because they don't have experience

Icimoi · 26/11/2014 17:42

Mrs DV, I agree that Cameron would be citing his experience if Ivan were still alive. But I am sure it would be on precisely the same lines - telling people that he cannot be criticised for what he is doing because he knows what it is to care for a severely disabled child, and debate would still be shut down.

Neither JM nor anyone else is saying that Cameron shouldn't talk about Ivan. They are simply saying that he should not use him for political purposes. I really don't think that that should be off limits.

Rootandbranch · 26/11/2014 17:44

"I think Jack needs to wind her neck in a bit. She is not the only woman on the planet to have been a single mother on a low income."

How many people who have recently been raising a family in serious poverty have the ear of the public in the way that she has?

MrsDeVere · 26/11/2014 17:45

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Icimoi · 26/11/2014 17:45

I suspect JM isn't apologising because she doesn't need to apologise. People who have expressed offence are largely made up of those who have been whipped up by the likes of the Mail (which artistically ignores the fact that what she says is factually correct), and those who are doing it for political reasons. If you take offence at people telling the truth, you really need to have a good look at yourself.

MrsDeVere · 26/11/2014 17:49

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lem73 · 26/11/2014 17:58

Saying my comment is not valid because I don't have direct is not a fact. It is YOUR opinion.
Just to repeat. Because of all I have heard from my DM I understand how exhausting and heart breaking it is to care for someone with complex disabilities. I don't KNOW exactly it's like. However I do know I have so much respect for parents in such a situation, like the Camerons and many others I know, and I know how grateful I am for my family's good health.

MrsDeVere · 26/11/2014 18:05

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raltheraffe · 26/11/2014 18:15

I would like to know what idiot at Sainsbury's hired her, and worse still, Jamie Oliver in the first place. It is almost like they are trying to put people off shopping there.

lem73 · 26/11/2014 18:17

I'm not outraged. I'm actually amused by your determination to object to anything I say.
And calling people an inspiration is not something I'd normally do but ANYONE who loses a child and picks themselves up and take care of their other children have my utmost admiration.
Wonder what you'll find to object to in that statement?

MrsDeVere · 26/11/2014 18:20

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MrsDeVere · 26/11/2014 18:22

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LegoAdventCalendar · 26/11/2014 18:22

'I would like to know what idiot at Sainsbury's hired her, and worse still, Jamie Oliver in the first place. It is almost like they are trying to put people off shopping there.'

You chose your supermarket based on which chef or celeb they get to appear in adverts?

I'm no fan of Peter Andre, but as long as Iceland's close and cheap I'll go in there and buy things.

hackmum · 26/11/2014 18:24

MrsDeVere: "People are so busy being outraged they can't be arsed to read properly."

Ain't that the truth.

RabbitOfNegativeEuphoria · 26/11/2014 18:31

hackmum I'm not sure it's that they can't be arsed. I think the misreading is willful.

Vevvie · 26/11/2014 18:33

I champion JM, she said what many think and have already said.

Applefallingfromthetree2 · 26/11/2014 18:35

I sometimes think that when some people get a bit of fame or power that they lose their sense of decency. Humanity is replaced by an ego trip.

landrover · 26/11/2014 18:42

Some of you really can't imagine what it is like to lose a child (thank god), I wish you all well!

Maybe you would prefer us to have a PM who hasn't had experience of raising a disabled child and then a bereavement? Would that be better?

raltheraffe · 26/11/2014 18:47

No I do not chose the supermarket purely based on the celeb in the adverts and never said that.

However the whole point of advertising is to drum up sales and they have picked 2 very annoying people to represent their business.