To never want anyone to champion Jack Monroe again?

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After what she has tweeted about David Cameron. here

Like him or loathe him to describe the way he talks about his deceased son as 'misty eyed' and used for political gain is disgusting.

The greatest loss any of us can imagine is the loss of a child. Shock horror, even politician have real feeling. It's just awful that she would say that about another parent.

I don't care what she can do with a bloody lentil. Something's are just too low.

raltheraffe You can't dismiss someone for being a vile human being. You have to follow employment and contract law. I am sure Sainsbury's will do that.

It is bringing the company into disrepute and you can dismiss if within probationary period

Butnif S a in urns has given you a fixed term contract then the supermarket can chose to terminate the agreement subject to the Terms and Conditions that exist in the contract or at the contract's expiry.

If I ever S aims burgs associating themselves with her again I will ensure I shop elsewhere and Sainsburys should take heed of what has happened to Tescos when their customer base didn't like what they were doing. profits sank!

Well said mrsdevere

On the plus side she is less irritating than Jamie Oliver

How does DC not know what it's like to care FOR a disabled child? Yes they had people to help but he was by all accounts quite involved. After Ivan died I remember reading how he'd frequently have to go to hospital in the middle of the night with Ivan because he'd have severe seizures. He had a camp bed in his office to take forty winks during the day because of this. You seem to be making an assumption that as he is rich he just delegated the care.
Fwiw I think the Camerons are a real inspiration in how they dealt with having Ivan and how they have coped with the grief.

It is bringing the company into disrepute and you can dismiss if within probationary period

I believe Jack Monroe has a contract, which is more difficult to terminate than an employment period with a probationary period, particularly if it's a zero-hours contract.

If that is in your contract of employment with your employees, then go for it.

But I don't understand why you are demanding that Sainsbury's makes a major stand by terminating Jack Monroe's contract on your perceived principle and risking a court case.

They can afford to do it, but I guess that you, as a much smaller employer couldn't.

So would you do that?

What are you asking of Sainsbury's? If you're so offended by this, the principle is the same, isn't it?

You should sack her too, shouldn't you? And hang the consequences.

I don't do zero hours contracts I don't agree with them. However all my contracts have a 3 month probation which can be extended to 6 months if there are issues

He had a camp bed in his office to take forty winks during the day because of this

How many other 'normal' employees who have profoundly disabled children do you think are able to do this? I can't see Tesco allowing a camp bed on an checkout, can you?

MrsDeVere many people lose any chance of their careers when they have caring responsibilities. I have a demanding career, and it's a bloody miracle I managed to hang onto the job I was doing at the time, because I could not afford to delegate.

(I had very supportive bosses. Many people are not so lucky. Even so, my bosses had no idea what a mess I was in.)

I am quite familiar with the needs of children with complex disabilities thank you very much. My mum worked for 30 years as a nurse with disabled children in residential care and now she works for a charity which supports families taking care of such children at home. I have a pretty good idea of how tough it is. So when I see people like the Camerons and other parents, I think well done. I hope I'd have their strength.

It's all a storm in a teacup in any case. The trending stories across Twitter are #CameronMustGo, #Ferguson and #WhiteRibbonProject. Jack Monroe has had hardly any tweets about it since yesterday, and most of those she has had were in agreement with her. Vine has been getting a bit of a kicking for her homophobic article, and there have been two other articles in daily newspapers about the Cameron/Monroe row, both pretty much saying the same thing - she was right in what she said, but should have said it differently. I'd agree with that sentiment.

Archery I do not think what she has said about dc is true. You say it is and I disagree

raltheraffe, is there any chance of you giving evidenced arguments rather than just repeatedly saying you think JM is vile and that you disagree that what she said in true? People have come up with a number of concrete examples of Cameron shutting down argument by bringing up his son. Do you disagree that he said those things? If you don't think he keeps bringing up his son in the context of closing down argument on his policies re the NHS and disability, why don't you think that?

That Tweet is all the evidence I need to say that someone is vile

Mrs DV, I agree with much of what you say. But really, is it relevant that JM doesn't know what it is to lose a child? Are the only people entitled to draw attention to what Cameron does in this connection those who have lost children? If we work on the basis that it is off limits, we are simply playing into his hands.

Why is it vile to tell the truth, raltheraffe?

That's not very nice MrsD The Poster's experience is valid.

Saying that only those with direct experience can comment is pretty much the same as what Cameron is doing - i.e. shutting people out of the debate.