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are the places your not allowed to breast feed.

196 replies

ghostspirit · 15/11/2014 13:01

am i being unreasonable to think i can breast feed anywhere. When i had my last child i breast fed every where in mcdonalds, at the bus stop on the bus. only ever had one problem in mcdonalds. i was asked to stop breast feeding and i erm.... no. and that was end of it. But im wondering by law can i be asked to stop breast feeding in public? family restaurants, buses where ever really? and if i refuse what could happen?

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ShadowKat · 15/11/2014 21:39

Aduaz For a baby, breastfeeding is regular feeding.

You may be unable to help feeling uncomfortable watching a baby being breastfed. But that's your problem. It's unreasonable to expect mothers to avoid breastfeeding just because you don't like seeing it, in the same way as it would be unreasonable for a person with a button phobia to expect everyone else to avoid wearing clothes with buttons.

Bottom line, women have a legal right to breastfeed babies in public. If that makes you feel uncomfortable, then it's up to you to find ways to cope with that. Such as moving to a different seat in McDonald's so you're not facing the breastfeeding baby.

And, FWIW, IME most women are pretty discreet when breastfeeding. I've rarely seen much in the way of exposed breasts when I've seen other women breastfeeding.

EmbarrassedPossessed · 15/11/2014 21:42

Aduaz, the primary purpose of human breasts is to feed babies. Therefore it is normal for babies to be nursed and breastfed by their mothers. If left to naturally self wean, children lose the ability to latch on and feed as the get older, so no older child or adult is capable of breastfeeding. That's why you don't see adults "sucking on a tit".

It is biologically normal for a baby to be breastfed by its mother. You don't have to like it, but you are not entitled to expect anyone to accommodate your personal issue with it. You, as a grown adult, just have to suck it up and deal with it.

Inertia · 15/11/2014 21:47

I've exposed a breast when feeding in public - DC1 went through a stage of being distracted by loud noises while feeding. Being discreet is the personal choice of the mother, or a result of the feeding habits of the child- it's not a requirement.

Aduaz, your breasts don't need to be exposed when you eat, because you are using your hand as the body part which transfers the food and drink to your mouth. A breast is the body part which transfers food into a baby's mouth.

Going back to your earlier point, this has nothing in coming with urinating or defacating in a restaurant. Urination and defecation are the removal of waste products from the body, and as such may carry harmful pathogens.

Breastfeeding is a mechanism for transferring food to a baby. It is not at all comparable.

Inertia · 15/11/2014 21:48

in common

Stealthpolarbear · 15/11/2014 21:54

No fairness in think aduaz does realise it's his or her problem

Ok - lap dancing is another situation where it's not appropriate to breast feed. And while eating beet root

Stealthpolarbear · 15/11/2014 21:54

Or in fact while receiving a lap dance

Andrewofgg · 15/11/2014 21:55

A private members' club for one gender only is lawful; but if it is for men and it allows women guests to some or all of the premises then a woman guest may breastfeed in the parts to which women are admitted.

Inertia · 15/11/2014 21:55

Presumably only adults are allowed in the lap-dancing establishment due to licensing laws, so the baby wouldn't be there anyway.

Nobody should eat beetroot even when not breastfeeding :)

Aduaz · 15/11/2014 22:26

It's only a problem for me if I can actually see the breasts and most of the time you can't so really it's not that big a problem. Of course I don't expect a woman not to bf just because I'm uncomfortable seeing it in a restaurant, that would be unfair on her. Just pointing out that cooperation usually works and if it was me (trying to put think how I'd feel as a mum which is rather difficult for a bloke) I'd probably try being discreet about it just out of courtesy to other diners.

maddening · 15/11/2014 22:29

Whilst driving, in an operating theatre?

Plenty of places where I wouldn't - a funeral for example.

5madthings · 15/11/2014 22:40

You can feed wherever you and baby are legally allowed to be. I have bfed on buses, trains, tubes, parks, restaurants, weddings and funerals. Ds2 was a few weeks old at my gmas funeral so he had to come with me and I fed him. It was a non issue and all the other mourners were pleased to see him there.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 15/11/2014 22:43
Shock

How can people say these things?

I LOVES beetroot.

EmbarrassedPossessed · 15/11/2014 22:46

The thing is, you would only think to be discreet if you thought what you were doing was possibly offensive or unpleasant. I don't feel that breastfeeding is offensive or unpleasant, in fact quite the opposite. So when feeding in public I wouldn't change what I would normally do, as how I feed my baby is not something that I need to hide.

The onus is not on the breastfeeding mother to take into account the unreasonable demands of those who might find breastfeeding uncomfortable. People who find breastfeeding uncomfortable to watch are responsible for themselves and can choose to make themselves more comfortable by not looking.

MrsHathaway · 15/11/2014 22:48

Yes - ironically enough I find bf covers very indiscreet. They draw attention to the act in the way a normal, casual feed doesn't.

Inertia · 15/11/2014 22:54

There's a very simple way of avoiding seeing breasts. Don't look at women who are breastfeeding a baby.

What on earth does courtesy have to do with breastfeeding? Which other members of society should have to hide themselves away as they eat in restaurants?

Inertia · 15/11/2014 23:00

It wouldn't be safe to breastfeed while driving, so that's a different issue.

An operating theatre isn't a public space where a mother and baby would have the right to be.

I'd have breastfed my babies at a funeral. I did breastfeed one of them at a graduation ceremony. Nobody noticed, not even MIL who was sitting next to me.

A restaurant is a place designed for the specific purpose of consuming food. If you can't cope with all members of society of society eating in public spaces designed for the consumption of food, you need to either ignore it or eat in private.

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/11/2014 23:27

If babies aren't the issue, and bottle feeding isn't the issue, that means breasts are nauseating. Which makes me kind of sad for Aduaz.

5madthings · 15/11/2014 23:34

Well if aduaz finds breasts nauseating he really must struggle woth daily life given advertising/music industry/films/media etc and just seeing women out and about. That's quite a lot of feeling nauseous, poor bloke Grin

YonicScrewdriver · 15/11/2014 23:35

Aduaz, in the event that you spot a woman BF, whether discreetly or openly, isn't it a more practical solution for you to move than a mother, mid feed, all settled with her muslin and her glad of water and her buggy parked and her cake healthy snack to unlatch, and resettle all of the above plus a screaming baby?

FestiveFox · 15/11/2014 23:35

if you get asked to stop, get out your phone, stick it on video mode, then say

can you say that again, while filming them, it puts them right off lol

when they say are you filming me, say yes, because I'm going to report you to the police because what you have just done is illegal
hopefully they will only give you a small fine

Grin

also do this for any other crap that happens

YonicScrewdriver · 15/11/2014 23:36

He never did answer about p3. Maybe he was throwing up at the very thought?

AliMonkey · 15/11/2014 23:50

Another one here who bf at a funeral - Seemed to me that it was a lot less distracting to others than a screaming baby. My DM (who wasn't there) thinks I shouldn't have taken DS but DF said how proud his mum (it was her funeral) would have been to see the next generation there.

Also fed at a work meeting - announced office closure while I was on mat leave so I attended the big consultation meeting. Luckily held in a dark room so we could see the presentation!

sashh · 16/11/2014 04:37

You can breast feed anywhere you and your baby are legally allowed to be.

So you could be asked to leave a 12 film because your baby is too young, if you happened to be bf at the time you would still be asked to leave.

hellohelloididntseeyouthere · 16/11/2014 06:54

Me and a friend are both feeding small babies. I do a two top one up one down cram the baby in onto nipple and no one would ever see or know unless they were looking at the exact moment before the baby latches on.

She unbuttons blouse, pulls vest too down to expose bra, pulls bra down leaving whole breast exposed, and then picks
Child up with boob dangling.

I am a breastfeeding mother myself and even when I am doing it at the exact same time, I don't particularly want to see someone else's nipples. I think breastfeeding is so beautiful but there are definitely ways of being discrete which some people don't do.

It's no different than communal swimming changing rooms when you wiggle into your pants under the towel whilst there is someone standing next to you with full bush stark naked. It's unnecessary to expose more than you need to if it makes people feel uncomfortable.

I don't agree with a lot of what has been said on here and yes babies have to eat and I feed whenever and wherever, but I am also mindful that people might not want to get an eyeful as it makes them feel uncomfortable!!!

Stealthpolarbear · 16/11/2014 06:56

I love beet root, but I can imagine the resulting stains on your baby's head would be quite alarming!