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To think some words don't belong in informal conversation

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Thrif · 11/11/2014 08:17

There are certain words that, whilst technically correct, make a person sound completely up themselves when used out loud.

Whom is the worst. Whilst is another

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LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 11/11/2014 19:24

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Alisvolatpropiis · 11/11/2014 19:26

Yabu some people are more articulate than others. That doesn't make the person "up themselves".

You wouldn't like me at all in real op.

I can of course temper and alter my speech if I need to, for work if speaking to particular clients. But that is exactly what is...altering how I speak.

When I am with friends, having a normal conversation I won't change how I speak. It is perhaps fortunate that my friends and I speak in a similar manner.

LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 11/11/2014 20:04

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BellaTeacake · 11/11/2014 21:41

You are not above reproach LaQ. I have witnessed a few of your slip-ups Wink.

Philoslothy · 11/11/2014 22:38

Very few of the words on this thread are "posh" or particularly articulate. I have a strong regional accent and dialect and an about as common as they come. I use most of the words on this thread in every day conversation apart from "myself" in the way it had been suggested by some - because it js wrong.

There is nothing wrong with being articulate but using your language just to show off your "intelligence" shows a lack of social awareness.

However often it comes from a lack of confidence and a worry that you are not as good as everyone else and need to use "clever people's language" to be accepted or taken seriously. Russell Brand is a classic case of this.

EBearhug · 11/11/2014 23:20

I think this is the place that I have recently been in a situation where I could have used floccinaucinihilipilification for real (it means the act or habit of treating as worthless, and I could use it reference to a particular manager, and not in a positive way. I learnt it when I was about 12.)

I haven't had the nerve to do so, though, because I would be doing it just to make a point.

SconeRhymesWithGone · 11/11/2014 23:54

The who/whom distinction will be gone in a generation. It will not be missed.

BuckskinnedAstronaut · 12/11/2014 00:06

Floggingmolly -- it will have had sod all to do with AS. The origins of "happy as a sandboy" are fine (it was to do with boys who sold/delivered sand) but "sandboy" came to be used in the mid-20th century as a disparaging term for brown people who came from places with a lot of sand, so it's sort of borderline offensive now.

TheLovelyBoots · 12/11/2014 06:11

You are not above reproach LaQ. I have witnessed a few of your slip-ups.

Yes. I'm not convinced that you're as articulate as you think you are.

TheLovelyBoots · 12/11/2014 06:14

The who/whom distinction will be gone in a generation. It will not be missed.
I disagree, it's still widely used.

Sunna · 12/11/2014 06:52

The who/whom distinction will be gone in a generation. It will not be missed.

"I disagree, it's still widely used."

I still use it and so does my DH and our DCs.

Alisvolatpropiis · 12/11/2014 08:15

Scone

The who/whom distinction is still widely used by those who know it and is also very much still used in professional roles. Particularly letters.

Dawndonnaagain · 12/11/2014 08:28

My children comprehend and use the who/whom distinction. The youngest are eighteen.

AmazeyTotals · 12/11/2014 08:31

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LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 12/11/2014 08:38

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LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 12/11/2014 08:46

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BellaTeacake · 12/11/2014 08:48

Ah,LaQ, most of the time you're fine. It's just the mistakes lots of people make because they 'sound' right? -'they gave DH and I a warm welcome' that sort of thing. ' I took dd and her friends shopping...her and her friends loved it'

Easily done Wink

HumptyDumptyBumpty · 12/11/2014 08:50

Tomuchtosay you said you struggle with spelling and grammar because of your dyslexia - but your post was beautifully written. Since you asked, the word you wanted was 'decipher', not 'deceiver'. Similar sounds, easy mistake to make. Smile

I am probably guilty of using longer words than necessary, sometimes. I like words, and I think they're fun to use. I don't think I've ever pissed anyone off - I hope not!

LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 12/11/2014 08:53

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BellaTeacake · 12/11/2014 09:08

Maybe I am overly strict LaQ? I always tend to correct my elder two DC and, increasingly, my six year old. 'No...they gave it to X and me, but X and I went'. I can often see them trying to mentally take themselves 'out' of the equation, as per my instructions! DD1 is at end of primary school and has almost flawless grammar. A bit frustrating to then go to Parents' night and be told 'yes her and X work well together...'/'we done that last term...'
I do think that impeccable grammar is a useful tool but your accent is unimportant.

LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 12/11/2014 09:20

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SconeRhymesWithGone · 12/11/2014 12:34

The who/whom distinction is still widely used by those who know it and is also very much still used in professional roles. Particularly letters.

I said "in a generation." I didn't say tomorrow. I doubt I will be around to say "I told you so," but the bell will toll for "whom."

SconeRhymesWithGone · 12/11/2014 12:52

All you whom-lovers, do you say "It is I" on a regular basis, or even better, "that was they"?

grocklebox · 12/11/2014 14:28

There is nothing wrong with being articulate but using your language just to show off your "intelligence" shows a lack of social awareness.

And assuming that people are speaking a certain way to show off to YOU is arrogant and self-absorbed, and shows a lack of social awareness as well as an insecurity of self.

FrozenAteMyDaughter · 12/11/2014 14:30

For some reason Dh and I respond to all of each other's queries of "who is it" with "it is I, Leclerc", which I think is allo, allo, but the reason is now lost in the mists of time. So yes we are keeping "it is I" alive. And whom, at least at work.